WHAT IS THE LIGHT OF THE MIDNIGHT CRY?

Date: Apr 19, 2021

RE: WHAT IS THE LIGHT OF THE MIDNIGHT CRY?

Date: Apr 20, 2021

zafer wrote:
Nb wrote:
Spend time with the originals and the kjv Bible with much prayer and God will reveal truth.
If by "originals" you mean everything that was published under the name of EGW until 1881, I must say that for me is increasingly clear that the leading men in the church started to remove the light of the midnight cry from these writings even before that year. What do you think about what webmaster said about this light of the MC? What it is in fact?

Originals means that the words have not been changed by those against EGW. Yes, James protected the SOP but when he was sick things were being messed with. After he died, it became rampant. At first, things were deleted. Later on, things were added. She wrote so much however that they could not tamper with everything. A true student of the writings will know the difference. The earlier the copywrite date the better but that is not always secure. Sometimes only the title was changed. Sometimes only a chapter was added and the rest is pure. Tampered stuff doesn't read smooth and has contradictions in it.

Date: Jun 15, 2021

NB wrote:
zafer wrote:
Nb wrote:
Spend time with the originals and the kjv Bible with much prayer and God will reveal truth.
If by "originals" you mean everything that was published under the name of EGW until 1881, I must say that for me is increasingly clear that the leading men in the church started to remove the light of the midnight cry from these writings even before that year. What do you think about what webmaster said about this light of the MC? What it is in fact?
Originals means that the words have not been changed by those against EGW. Yes, James protected the SOP but when he was sick things were being messed with. After he died, it became rampant. At first, things were deleted. Later on, things were added. She wrote so much however that they could not tamper with everything. A true student of the writings will know the difference. The earlier the copywrite date the better but that is not always secure. Sometimes only the title was changed. Sometimes only a chapter was added and the rest is pure. Tampered stuff doesn't read smooth and has contradictions in it.

I find quite interesting what you are saying. I heard before the idea that things happened with her writings when James was sick or when they were grieving the loss of their son. Can you give me more details, please? Do you have any more information or evidences on this? Did any of these things happened in 1850/51?

Date: Jun 15, 2021

Nice to hear from you Zafer.....

yes Zafer I agree with webmaster on this one.... 1844 was based on time but never again will the test be on time

our test will be the Sabbath

but this does not mean that we won't know the season and when the time is near...

remember how Noah entered the boat but it didn't rain for a week... it was a test for him as well

we won't even know when the probation closes for the world until the first plague starts to fall

Date: Jul 30, 2021

nb wrote:
remember how Noah entered the boat but it didn't rain for a week... it was a test for him as well
we won't even know when the probation closes for the world until the first plague starts to fall

And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. _[_] FOR YET SEVEN DAYS, AND I WILL CAUSE IT TO RAIN UPON THE EARTH forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. (Genesis 7:1, 4)

Yes, as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be (Matthew 24:37). Only that the text seems to say a different story: God told the time before it happened! He told to the whole world about the 120 probationary years, and He told His children about the exact timeline that followed: 7 days in the ark with no rain and than the 40 days flood. Why did God change so drastically after 1844?

Date: Jul 30, 2021

The virgins have been asleep or slumbering; yes, all of us. Asleep on the time: that is the point. Some have indeed preached the seventh month, but it has with doubt whether it is this year or some other: and that doubt is now removed from my mind. Behold, the Bridegroom cometh, This Year, Go ye out to meet him. We have done with the nominal churches and all the wicked, except so far as this cry may affect them: our work is now to wake up the virgins who took their lamps and went forth to meet the Bridegroom. Where are we now? If the vision tarry, wait for it. Is not that our answer since last March and April? Yes. What happened while the bridegroom tarried? The virgins all slumbered and slept, did they not Christs words have not failed; and the Scriptures cannot be broken, and it is of no use for us to pretend that we have been awake: we have been slumbering; not on the fact of Christs coming, but on the time. We came into the tarrying time - we did not know how long it would tarry, and on that point we have slumbered some of us have said, in our sleep, Dont fix another time; so we slept. Now the trouble is to wake us up. Lord help, for vain is the help of man. Speak thyself, Lord. O, that the Father may now make known the time.

To illustrate the position we have occupied. Time the preaching of definite time for the coming of our Lord was what led us to take our lamps and go forth to meet the Bridegroom. The great truth, our Lord Jesus Christ is coming again, personally, to this earth, was, so to speak, the rope let down from heaven, made fast to the throne of God, and equally immoveable as that throne; by faith, as with both hands, we took hold of that rope; under our feet we had a solid platform, time, where we stand, and all our opponents could not remove it, nor make us let go of the rope. There we stood and rejoiced in the blessed hope. What our opponents never could and never did do, the end of the supposed Jewish year 1843, effected, viz. swept away our platform from under us, and left us with nothing but the rope to hold on by. Did we let go? Some have, and drawn back to perdition. But many have continued to hold by the rope. The scoffing winds have beat against us severely, and we have swung in the air the sport of our opponents. They told us we were now with them, looking for the Lords coming, but without any definite time; and we have been compelled to admit it, but have refused to let go of the rope, - saying If the vision tarry, wait for it. But we have not known how long we were thus to swing upon the rope, without a foundation for our feet; and we have not felt the same joy and glory that we did when we stood on definite time. God has been trying our faith, to see if we would hold on. Now, once more, he offers us a platform on which to stand. It is in the 25th chapter of Matthew. Here we have the chronology of the tarrying time, and its duration. If ye shall receive it, you will find once more your feet upon a rock, and the glory that the first belief in time produced in our breasts, returns with a large addition to it, even a joy unspeakable and full of glory. (GO YE OUT TO MEET HIM. THE TENTH DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH THE ADVENT HERALD, AND SIGNS OF THE TIMES REPORTER, OCTOBER 16, 1844 BY GEORGE STORRS)

From this I want to especially emphasize the following words: The virgins all slumbered and slept, did they not Christs words have not failed; and the Scriptures cannot be broken, and it is of no use for us to pretend that we have been awake: we have been slumbering; not on the fact of Christs coming, but on the time. We came into the tarrying time - we did not know how long it would tarry, and on that point we have slumbered some of us have said, in our sleep, Dont fix another time; so we slept. Now the trouble is to wake us up. Lord help, for vain is the help of man. Speak thyself, Lord. O, that the Father may now make known the time.

Date: Aug 1, 2021

You are getting the coming of the Lord too far off. I saw the latter rain was coming as [suddenly as] the midnight cry, and with ten times the power. {SpM 4.3}

Date: Aug 1, 2021

The Lord has shown me the danger of letting our minds be filled with worldly thoughts and cares. I saw that some minds are led away from present truth and a love of the Holy Bible by reading other exciting books; others are filled with perplexity and care for what they shall eat, drink, and wear. Some are looking too far off for the coming of the Lord. Time has continued a few years longer than they expected; therefore they think it may continue a few years more, and in this way their minds are being led from present truth, out after the world. In these things I saw great danger; for if the mind is filled with other things, present truth is shut out, and there is no place in our foreheads for the seal of the living God. I saw that the time for Jesus to be in the most holy place was nearly finished and that time can last but a very little longer. What leisure time we have should be spent in searching the Bible, which is to judge us in the last day. {EW 58.1}

Date: Aug 6, 2021

We cannot be ready to meet the Lord by waking when the cry is heard, "Behold, the Bridegroom!" and then gathering up our empty lamps to have them replenished. We cannot keep Christ apart from our lives here, and yet be fitted for His companionship in heaven. {COL 413.2}

In the parable the wise virgins had oil in their vessels with their lamps. Their light burned with undimmed flame through the night of watching. It helped to swell the illumination for the bridegroom's honor. Shining out in the darkness, it helped to illuminate the way to the home of the bridegroom, to the marriage feast. {COL 414.1}

So the followers of Christ are to shed light into the darkness of the world. Through the Holy Spirit, God's word is a light as it becomes a transforming power in the life of the receiver. By implanting in their hearts the principles of His word, the Holy Spirit develops in men the attributes of God. The light of His glory--His character -- is to shine forth in His followers. Thus they are to glorify God, to lighten the path to the Bridegroom's home, to the city of God, to the marriage supper of the Lamb. {COL 414.2}

Date: Aug 10, 2021

Near the close of the second angel's message, I saw a great light from heaven shining upon the people of God. The rays of this light seemed bright as the sun. And I heard the voices of angels crying, "Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him!" {EW 238.1}

This was the midnight cry, which was to give power to the second angel's message. Angels were sent from heaven to arouse the discouraged saints and prepare them for the great work before them. The most talented men were not the first to receive this message. Angels were sent to the humble, devoted ones, and constrained them to raise the cry, "Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him!" Those entrusted with the cry made haste, and in the power of the Holy Spirit sounded the message, and aroused their discouraged brethren. This work did not stand in the wisdom and learning of men, but in the power of God, and His saints who heard the cry could not resist it. The most spiritual received this message first, and those who had formerly led in the work were the last to receive and help swell the cry, "Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him!" {EW 238.2}

In every part of the land, light was given upon the second angel's message, and the cry melted the hearts of thousands. It went from city to city, and from village to village, until the waiting people of God were fully aroused. In many churches the message was not permitted to be given, and a large company who had the living testimony left these fallen churches. A mighty work was accomplished by the midnight cry. The message was heart-searching, leading the believers to seek a living experience for themselves. They knew that they could not lean upon one another. {EW 238.3}