At min 12:58 - 59  the video says  "The fruits of the SDA Church speak volumes unto it being Babylon "

The EGW quotes if shown in their context will not sound any call to leave the organized church - this video is assembling what pleases it's author and lying "bearing false witness"

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Read {TM 15.1 - 62.2} 

" When men arise, claiming to have a message from God, but instead of warring against principalities and powers, and the rulers of the darkness of this world, they form a hollow square, and turn the weapons of warfare against the church militant, be afraid of them. They do not bear the divine credentials. God has not given them any such burden of labor. They would tear down that which God would restore by the Laodicean message. He wounds only that He may heal, not cause to perish. The Lord lays upon no man a message that will discourage and dishearten the church. He reproves, He rebukes, He chastens; but it is only that He may restore and approve at last. How glad my heart was made by the report from the General Conference that many hearts were softened and subdued, that many made humble confessions, and cleared away from the door of the heart the rubbish that was keeping the Saviour out. How glad I was to know that many welcomed Jesus in as an abiding guest. How is it that these pamphlets denouncing the Seventh-day Adventist Church as Babylon [SEE APPENDIX.] were scattered abroad everywhere, at the very time when that church was receiving the outpouring of the Spirit of God? How is it that men can be so deceived as to imagine that the loud cry consists in calling the people of God out from the fellowship of a church that is enjoying a season of refreshing? Oh, may these deceived souls come into the current, and receive the blessing, and be endued with power from on high.  {TM 22.2}   "

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August 29, 1893 The Remnant Church Not Babylon.  By Mrs. E. G. White.  (To be continued.)  {RH, August 29, 1893 par.1- 9} 

September 5, 1893 The Remnant Church Not Babylon (Continued)   By Mrs. E. G. White.  {RH, September 5, 1893 par.1- 9} 

September 12, 1893 The Remnant Church Not Babylon.  By Mrs. E. G. White.(Concluded.)  Read   {RH, September 12, 1893 par.1- 21}

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" "My brother, I learn that you are taking the position that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is Babylon, and that all that would be saved must come out of her. You are not the only man whom the enemy has deceived in this matter. For the last forty years, one man after another has arisen, claiming that the Lord has sent him with the same message; but let me tell you, as I have told them, that this message you are proclaiming, is one of the Satanic delusions designed to create confusion among the churches. My brother, you are certainly off the track. The second angel's message was to go to Babylon [the churches] proclaiming her downfall, and calling the people to come out of her. This same message is to be proclaimed the second time. 'And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.'  {RH, September 12, 1893 par. 14}  

     "My brother, if you are teaching that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is Babylon, you are wrong. God has not given you any such message to bear. Satan will use every mind to which he can attain access, inspiring men to originate false theories, or go off on some wrong tangent, that he may create a false excitement, and thus divert souls from the true issue for this time. I presume that some may be deceived by your message, because they are full of curiosity and desire for some new thing.  {RH, September 12, 1893 par. 15}  

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October 17, 1893 The Church the Property of God.By Mrs. E. G. White.

{RH, October 17, 1893 par. 1-7} 

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KJV Rev 10:1-11 shows that the Church goes through till Jesus comes again. 

"The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take place.--2SM 380 (1886).  {LDE 180.5}  

     As the storm approaches, a large class who have professed faith in the third angel's message, but have not been sanctified through obedience to the truth, abandon their position and join the ranks of the opposition.--GC 608 (1911).  {LDE 180.6}  "

In light of this prophecy - Gibbs you are leaving Christ's Church - wherein are you not obeying truth ?  Why are you abandoning your position as a Seventh Day Adventist ? 

There is a simple little understanding we have all not come to see in the past.  That is, What is the Church?

Let's keep it simple, it is His Bride, His Body, made up of His Jewels, His True followers made up of those who follow only Him.

For sure it is not any denominational name and that is the big mistake today, if one isn't in my denomination, we say, he or she is not in the Remnant church.

Whoa!, back as the fact is one don't have to be of any of the many denominations of Jews or Gentiles.  It is not the denomination of whatever name that is our salvation.

Christ only is the one and only way of salvation and He admonishes, "Follow Me". - Mt 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

That was stiff as he wanted to bury his father. 

OK, who will make up the 144,000?  Are you sure you can make that call?  He only knows the hearts that are true and are fully and totally His.

We must follow Him who tells us, - Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

God has placed in our hands a banner on which is inscribed the
words, "The commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." "Here are they
that keep the commandments of God, and have the testimonies of Jesus
Christ," He declares. At all times and in all places we are to hold the
banner firmly aloft. God's denominated people are to take a firm stand
under the banner of truth. The truths that we have been proclaiming for
more than half a century have been contested again and again. Again and
again the facts of faith have been disputed; but every time the Lord
has established the truth by the working of His Holy Spirit. Those who
have arisen to question and overthrow the principles of present truth,
have been sternly rebuked.
10 OM

As far as I know, there is no inspired counsel telling anyone that we need to leave the SDA church.  While we must be aware that there may come a time to leave, it certainly isn't now when God is calling for us to repent.  If anyone can ever show me any event that shows clearly, under the power of the Holy Spirit, that the SDA church has "fallen", then of course I will leave.  But strangely enough, of all the people who do leave, they can't agree among themselves on what was the defining event that supposedly made the SDA structure fall.

To stay with the denomination is to OK it's infilling with all that has come in.  And so again the question as to what the Remnant Church is.

It is His People regardless of denominations of the world and really His cannot and will not be with and of the world and the corrupt church structures that are all now are full of apostasies.

It looks as though the number of the true Saints will come down by the time Jesus comes in full Glory that number is a literal 144,000 and that is around 1 in 52,000 of this worlds population!

The one and only Church is His,  Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

I observe that Jesus and his Disciples held their own Church and mainly that is what Acts is about.  EGW states,

"God is displeased with us when we go to listen to error, without being obliged to go; for unless He sends us to those meetings where error is forced home to the people by the power of the will, He will not keep us. The angels cease their watchful care over us, and we are left to the buffetings of the enemy, to be darkened and weakened by him and the power of his evil angels; and the light around us becomes contaminated with the darkness."  {EW 124.3}

Jesus spoke stronger than John the Baptist to them but did it turn them around,

Mt 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Mt 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mt 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mt 23:13 ¶ But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Mt 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Mt 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

Here are the called out,

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. ( Church is Ekklesia,)

1577. ekklesia

ekklhsia ekklesia ek-klay-see'-ah
from a compound of 1537 and a derivative of 2564; a calling out, i.e. (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.

See Greek 1537
See Greek 2564

We must note, that He built it separate from the Apostate and it still stands today, His Word is our guarantee,  "and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."   The why is because only He is it's Head, He only is it's Organizer and He Only Ordains it's teachers as He Only can see who has His Spirit of Truth and weaves in no error. 

webmaster wrote:

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Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Agreed that we need to call for repentance.  That repentance should be IN the church.

Actually, if you think about it, it is not even really possible to call for repentance in God's remnant church if you are not a member of it yourself!

Let's not be found to be tearing down what God has built up, while at the same time, not be sleeping dogs either.

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 We must remember a remnant is a piece of the first and that was His Ekklisia.  A Remnant is a small piece of the first and of course the first ones are passed on and now the last ones are the very few.  The Remnant will be a small few and will come down to a mere 144,000 out of 7.5 billion of this earths population.

There has for sure been no other Church than His Ekklesia.  The Church is not a structure of men as it is a building of true souls on Him the Chief Cornerstone and it can be held anywhere and it has no name but "The Church at Wherever" it is held, It could be the Church at my home town, the Church at Stillwell, but there never was at that location but when my Grandfather was living there was, The Church at Monroe Township House, it was held Sabbaths and he printed out the Sabbath lessons on his printing setup and did most of the preaching.  No error was taught there.   He was in the Millerite Movement.

Also my first church was held in a township church building on Sabbaths and no error was taught there, pastors were sent to us and many were told and met at the door going out to not come back as they weaved in error.  They did not as they were thoroughly schooled of the error they tried to teach.

Then my wife and I moved to a big town and a huge membership church structure and it was the let down of my life.  You were shut out of countering the errors, they kept on forcing home the evil practices of the world and it has not slowed but has sped up!

Ellen tells us what the true Church is in a letter to her older sister and it is the truth that cannot be refuted!,

God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. "Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.  {UL 315.5} 

     Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon. His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God. . . .  {UL 315.6} 

     They that will be doers of the word are building securely, and the tempest and storm of persecution will not shake their foundation, because their souls are rooted to the eternal Rock.--Letter 108, Oct. 28, 1886, to her older sister and her husband who had not accepted the Sabbath truth.  {UL 315.7}

That was the year 1886 and in 1882 she gave stern warning to the structure of which the leadership did not heed, The Light of 1882!

She saw the light she gave her sister was futile to give to the structure is my thinking and she just never put it out to it.  It went on to become a denomination and a world corporation and took up 501C3 compliancy and so the government became  in part over it.   God only is Head of His Church, His Ekklisia!

NB, no way am I bitter but this is the way a straight testimony is taken against apostasy folks don't want to see.  It is a matter of who on earth are we following, the church structures of men or Jesus Christ.

There are many denominations of which will get very vehement when pointing out any apostasies to them. yes we point out Sunday is not God's Holy day and are in error ourselves but are too upheld to take a good look at our failings.

No I do not judge only for myself.  We are however to be witnesses and point out error we see is not with scripture.  Know you not Jesus got crucified for pointing out errors and apostasies.

No it is not a wanted Job.   Others are in this same boat with me and we are the few. 

Now I have not left THE CHURCH but I have left a structure that is no longer His Church because He cannot and will not be present in it because of the errors being forced home by the preachers!  It is only His Church only when He can be Present in it and error being put forth puts Him out!

Join me in the good fight against errors and Christ for sure will be with us~

webmaster wrote:

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My statement still stands:

Actually, if you think about it, it is not even really possible to call for repentance in God's remnant church if you are not a member of it yourself!

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 Whoa back dear Brother,  I am in God's Remnant Church, I see many that think they are, are badly deceived.  I am in Christ's Church the one He established and only He could build it.  All others are but structures of men doomed to fall in errors.

Why is because He is not the Head of any of them and He is not the organizer in any of them and He doesn't do the ordaining of the teachers in any of them, MEN HAVE TAKEN UP THOSE ROLES!

Dear Brother the Remnant is but a small piece of the first, HIS, HE ESTABLISHED IT, and the last end is just that, yes we are an extreme few!  We are an OBSCURE people known only of our testimony of the apostasies of the church structures of men.

Is Christ in a church structure that embraces and holds onto, NLP, Lab, 1,2,3, Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius Loyola, Emerging church, Trinity, false gospel saved in sin and more.

Dear Brother, it has been many years since He could smell in the structure.  Satan moved in at the top and stole the march on it for the greed of increasing member numbers at the expense of casting out  truth.  Yes smooth things that men love and we are cautioned of that,

Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

The leadership has been seduced as was Eve,  Huh?  How could anything so good be bad?  Huh?

1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

That would be excellent advice IF it weren't for the errors and apostasies that have come in.

So I ask all this question,  are you having Church in your gatherings when He isn't Present in it?

I have to answer an absolute NO! and the reason is where error and apostasy has come in He will not be Present.

His Church is not under a denominational name anyway Ellen White made that clear also, it is where He is invited into the midst and the truth is the worship, please read this verse,

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him "must" worship him in spirit and in truth

No need was needed of any to work to establish His Church as it was already built by Him and guaranteed it would never be prevailed against by the gates of hell?

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Instead of upholding all the errors that have come in and fighting to keep it going the least all could do is stand up and be counted letting it be known the errors must be dropped out if it is to be His Church.  That it is not Church when error is being entertained and upheld as He cannot be in it!  We must have True Church, not a gathering without Him Present in it!

It is because the people in her did not stand up is why that all the errors got established.  God is not in it when error is being put forth so to work to put a stop to it would not be out of place.  In my first SDA Church any false teacher was met and told to never come back and none ever did.

I have to believe Him first webmaster and He tells me,

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Then I have learned that only God Himself can build His Church as it is made up of People, we the people who will come and worship only in Spirit and in TRUTH are his Church.

It never had a name except, "The Church at Ephesus" or whatever location a congregation of it met.  Because it chose a denominational name and became a corporation of the world and then 501C3 compliant rules it out to be His Church.

Yes in the beginning to call themselves Seventh Day Adventists was not wrong as it was mainly a pointing out of Sabbath and His soon coming again.  Then men took over the kingship and made that a corporation name.

Now to be 501C3 compliant makes the government part master of it as it then cannot have any ministering voice speak down of the government.

Then again EGW also saw this or I can't read straight out square shooting testimony and understand it,

"God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. "Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.  {UL 315.5}

 
     Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon. His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God. . . .  {UL 315.6}

A T Jones also wrote a thesis that only God could build His Church and rings out to be the truth.  It was fairly a long one as he was a prolific writer and also to explain.

In the beginning of Adventism, God was it's head, organizer and the one who ordained His teachers and sent them forth.  Not so anymore in what now has become a structure of men.

However webmaster that paragraph did in no way refute her admonition that no denomination was the Church.  What she was telling her is the fact we His people are the Church, we each as a lively stone in it make it up a temple built up to Himself and that can only be done by Him.

In the beginning the Adventist People were congregations of His Church but at a point it fell from it.  Taking Christ from being the head, taking Him from being the organizer and then making themselves able to ordain was that point.

Ordination is only to be seen of men that God ordained that one and the service is a recognition service and not anything man is able to see that one has the Spirit of Truth and does not teach error or upholds error

The schools we have are of men and no doubt are beneficial but does not insure that any one of the students will be loaded up with The Spirit of Truth.  That can only be determined from their teaching that it in no way do they err from the Law and the Testimony of His infallible Word, His guide to us that He wants us to hold Him to we can be sure of that.

No I or no one has to be in a service of a SDA structure to be in His Church.  A denominational name never guaranteed that and never will.  What guarantees it is His Presence in it and the worship is of His Spirit and teaching is of absolute Truth.  Utmost Reverence must be as if not it is not of His Spirit.  Where High Reverence is not in it for Him, it is of another spirit.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. "Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church.  {UL 315.5} 

     Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon. His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God. . . .  {UL 315.6}