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Rom 8:3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 

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What does this mean to you?



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Ed Sutton

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He came and took our nature into Himself, but not it's love for sin, stayed united to Father God, as a human has available to them, Father God through that union empowered Him to overcome everywhere we decide to sin, He conquered His humanity through union with God using the tools offered to us.

" In the Likeness of Sinful Flesh.--Christ, the second Adam, came in the likeness of sinful flesh. In man's behalf, He became subject to sorrow, to weariness, to hunger, and to thirst. He was subject to temptation, but He yielded not to sin. No taint of sin was upon Him. He declared, "I have kept my Father's commandments [in My earthly life]" (John 15:10). He had infinite power only because He was perfectly obedient to His Father's will. The second Adam stood the test of trial and temptation that He might become the Owner of all humanity.--Manuscript 99, 1903. {3SM 141.5}

I wish I still had Elder Ralph Larson's books - "The Word made flesh" & "Tell of His Power"

 

"Christ's life represents a perfect manhood. Just that which you may be, He was in human nature. He took our infirmities. He was not only made flesh, but He was made in the likeness of sinful flesh. His divine attributes were withheld from relieving His soul anguish or His bodily pains (Letter 106, 1896).  {5BC 1124.2}  

 

" Jesus is the perfect pattern, and it is the duty and privilege of every child and youth to copy the pattern. Let children bear in mind that the child Jesus had taken upon Himself human nature, and was in the likeness of sinful flesh, and was tempted of Satan as all children are tempted. He was able to resist the temptation of Satan through His dependence upon the divine power of His heavenly Father, as He was subject to His will, and obedient to all His commands. He kept His Father's statutes, precepts, and laws. He was continually seeking counsel of God, and was obedient to His will.  {SD 128.2}  

 

" Adam was tempted by the enemy, and he fell. It was not indwelling sin which caused him to yield; for God made him pure and upright, in His own image. He was as faultless as the angels before the throne. There were in him no corrupt principles, no tendencies to evil. But when Christ came to meet the temptations of Satan, He bore "the likeness of sinful flesh." In the wilderness, weakened physically by a fast of forty days, He met the adversary. His dignity was questioned, His authority disputed, His allegiance to His Father assailed by the fallen foe.  {BEcho, September 3, 1900 par. 10}  

     All heaven watched the conflict between the Prince of light and the prince of darkness. Angels stood ready to interpose in Christ's behalf should Satan pass the prescribed limit. Oh, what love burned in their hearts as they saw their Commander apparently in the power of His foe. When the last temptation came, when as Satan offered Christ all the world and the glory of it, if He would fall down and worship him, divinity flashed through humanity, and the enemy was resisted, the love of the angels knew no bounds. Their sympathy could no longer be restrained.  {BEcho, September 3, 1900 par. 11}  

     Christ overcame Satan on every point. The wily foe could not induce Him to swerve from His allegiance to the Father. "Get thee behind Me, Satan," Christ said; "for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." The Captain of our salvation overcame for us; Satan left the field a conquered foe. But the strain upon Christ had left Him as one dead. "And, behold, angels came and ministered unto Him." Their arms encircled Him. Upon the breast of the highest angel in heaven His head rested. Divine consolation flowed into His soul. The foe was vanquished. Humanity was placed on vantage ground. Christ had conquered. Those who became partakers of the divine nature would be able to resist the temptations of the enemy.  {BEcho, September 3, 1900 par. 12}  

     Christ lived a human life that He might be man's example in all things. He endured temptation even as every human being must endure. He believed God as we must believe. He learned obedience even as we are required to learn obedience. And He overcame as we must overcome. His path lay through manifold temptations; therefore He knows how to succour those who are tempted.  {BEcho, September 3, 1900 par. 13}  

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" You are to die to self, to crucify the flesh, with the affections and lusts. You need not devise ways and methods of bringing about your own crucifixion; self-inflicted penances are of no avail, and will be found worthless when the test comes upon you. We are to surrender the heart to God, that he may renew and sanctify us, and fit us for his heavenly courts. We are not to wait for some special time, but today we are to give ourselves to him, refusing to be the servants of sin. Do you imagine that you can leave off sin by your own human power a little at a time? You cannot do this; Jesus was treated as a sinner when he assumed the likeness of sinful flesh, that the sinner might be treated as righteous. The Father loves us who believe in Christ as he loves his only-begotten Son. Thus by faith we can grasp the righteousness of Christ, and our Saviour saves us from all sin. The converted soul will hate the thing that Christ hates, and love the thing that Christ loves. Has he not by his death and suffering made provision for your cleansing from sin? You must take the blood of Jesus and apply it to your heart by faith; for that alone can make you whiter than snow. But you say, "The surrender of all my idols will break my heart." This is what is needed. In giving up all for God, you fall upon the rock and are broken. Give up all for him without delay, for unless you are broken, you are worthless.  {ST, August 8, 1892 par. 2} 



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A little from EGW,

"Before beginning His public ministry, Christ submitted to the fierce assaults of the enemy, knowing that without conflict there could be no victory. He condescended to engage in the contest under any circumstances that the foe might require. In all things He was made "like unto His brethren." He was "in all points tempted like as we are." "In that He Himself hath suffered being tempted, He is able to succor them that are tempted."  {ST, December 3, 1902 par. 4} 


     In the wilderness Christ and Satan met in combat, Christ in the weakness of humanity, apparently with not a friend to aid Him. Satan is subtle. It is by falsehood that he seeks to prevail. With all the power that he possessed, he tried to overcome the Son of Man. Could he lead the Saviour to swerve a hair's breadth from His allegiance to God, the victory would be his. The world would pass under his control.  {ST, December 3, 1902 par. 5}

 
     Satan charmed the first Adam by his sophistry, just as he charms men and women today, leading them to believe a lie. Adam did not reach above his humanity for divine power. He believed the words of Satan. But the second Adam was not to become the enemy's bondslave.  {ST, December 3, 1902 par. 6}


     Adam had the advantage over Christ, in that when he was assailed by the tempter, none of the effects of sin were upon him. He stood in the strength of perfect manhood, possessing full vigor of body and mind. He was surrounded with the glories of Eden, and was in daily communion with heavenly beings. It was not thus with Jesus when He entered the wilderness to cope with Satan. For four thousand years the race had been decreasing in physical strength, in mental power, in moral worth; and Christ took upon Him the infirmities of degenerate humanity. Only thus could He rescue man from the lowest depths of degradation.  {ST, December 3, 1902 par. 7}



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Lovely quotes everyone...thank you 

the quote below shows that Adam before the fall actually had an advantage over Christ.  It is so important that people understand the incarnation.  QOD presented a much different picture and muddied the waters.  The whole point I think is to show that Christ himself had no sin....likeness of sinful flesh... only.  And, that we can by His example have all the resources available from heaven to walk as Jesus walked.

 

especially liked this one "Adam had the advantage over Christ, in that when he was assailed by the tempter, none of the effects of sin were upon him. He stood in the strength of perfect manhood, possessing full vigor of body and mind. He was surrounded with the glories of Eden, and was in daily communion with heavenly beings. It was not thus with Jesus when He entered the wilderness to cope with Satan. For four thousand years the race had been decreasing in physical strength, in mental power, in moral worth; and Christ took upon Him the infirmities of degenerate humanity. Only thus could He rescue man from the lowest depths of degradation. {ST, December 3, 1902 par. 7}"

 



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I've heard many of what i consider fellow "conservative" SDAs who confuse Hebrews 2:17 "Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto [his] brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things [pertaining] to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people." and try to make it say that Jesus was exactly like you and i are born today.  Then they either say Jesus was born as a sinful person, or (as most of them do), say that we are born naturally good.  Either way, they are not understanding that Jesus was made in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh.

Jesus took on him the working of 4,000 years of hereditary workings to weaken the human race, but there were no sinful propensities in him at all.  So in that sense, he could be called the "Second Adam", yet not be exactly like we are born today (in sin).



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I believe the important thing to realize out of this is that He overcame Satan as a man must, taking no power but what is ours.

That was in allowing only the Father's Spirit in Him to be the sole Master in Him that He would come to obey, He became our example of how it is accomplished!

Now Christ in us, is our hope of Glory, which is actually the self same Spirit that we must allow only to be our sole Master and obey only Him and keep self and gratifications crucified.

It wasn't God who overcame Satan who dwelt in Him in all fullness, but He Himself the one sinless man who took on Himself the deficit of our sinful fallen nature as a drag, a terrible drag.  Therefore knowing and understanding the weakness of fallen man and so could succor us from knowing us.

Personally I believe this should be brought out in every True Gospel message.  That we must be overcomers too and we must do it just as He did, that is the Way He has made  and we can easily walk in it.

The way of the true Gospel of Salvation is not a hard row to hoe for us in no way close to what He had to contend with.  We have an advantage and that is Satan and His can see Him dwelling in you and so know that your mind and heart set you will obey only Him and so know they are defeated foes. 

We so resist the Devils and they flee from us.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.



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AMEN gentlemen smile



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