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No New Posts   Promises of God

May 19, 2023

(N). Psalm 119:1 

 

Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.

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No New Posts   The Arts and Christian Life

April 24, 2024

I have struggled a lot with connecting my faith to the Arts.

I'm at the point where I don't think the Arts hold much appeal for me as a Christian.

Beauty is important and there is a lot of beauty in the Arts, but is that enough?

What are the pros and cons of the Arts (music, literature, theatre and fine arts)? What place do they have in your life?

If they have no role in your life, what do you do with the time that others spend on the Arts?

Thank you in anticipation of your response.

Started By: Shireen

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Last Post: 19h ago by refulgent

 

No New Posts   Bring in enterprises

April 9, 2024

In a separate thread, Earlysda raised the issue of what is meant by the "enterprises" found in the paragraph on Mar 193 (quote #1 below).

It's hard to be absolutely sure of what is meant here, but the follow-on words "lead men to forget that there is a God" point in a particular direction.  I'm thinking specifically of a theme that I've encountered many times in my spiritual study over the years -- the idea of replacing God with human wisdom.  Quote #2 below is one that I come back to frequently, and the latter part of the quote talks about some of the enterprises.

This is a general quote, and if we go further with what the Spirit of Prophecy says in this area, we come to quote #3 below, that brings spiritualism into the mix.  The mention of "spiritualism" here is not primarily referring to the occult and seances and Ouija boards, but rather to a version of "modern spiritualism" that is described in quote #4 below.

I consider this idea of what might be called "philosophical spiritualism" to be a very central one, and one that I come back to very frequently.  I personally think that Satan has a huge amount of influence today, both in society and the Christian church, based on the tactics described in these quotes.

(quote #1)

But the enemy of all righteousness has designs upon God's purpose for this country. He will bring in enterprises that will lead men to forget that there is a God. Worldliness and covetousness, which is idolatry, will prevail through the working of the archdeceiver, till the law of God, in all its bearings, shall be made void.  {Mar 193.5}

(quote #2)

In rejecting the truth, men reject its Author. In trampling upon the law of God, they deny the authority of the Law-giver. It is as easy to make an idol of false doctrines and theories as to fashion an idol of wood or stone. By misrepresenting the attributes of God, Satan leads men to conceive of Him in a false character. With many, a philosophical idol is enthroned in the place of Jehovah; while the living God, as He is revealed in His word, in Christ, and in the works of creation, is worshiped by but few. Thousands deify nature while they deny the God of nature. Though in a different form, idolatry exists in the Christian world today as verily as it existed among ancient Israel in the days of Elijah. The god of many professedly wise men, of philosophers, poets, politicians, journalists -- the god of polished fashionable circles, of many colleges and universities, even of some theological institutions -- is little better than Baal, the sun-god of Phoenicia. {GC 583.1}

(quote #3)

Spiritualism asserts that men are unfallen demigods; that "each mind will judge itself;" that "true knowledge places men above all law;" that "all sins committed are innocent;" for "whatever is, is right," and "God doth not condemn." The basest of human beings it represents as in heaven, and highly exalted there. Thus it declares to all men, "It matters not what you do; live as you please, heaven is your home." Multitudes are thus led to believe that desire is the highest law, that license is liberty, and that man is accountable only to himself.  {Ed 227.6}

(quote #4)

It is true that spiritualism is now changing its form and, veiling some of its more objectionable features, is assuming a Christian guise. But its utterances from the platform and the press have been before the public for many years, and in these its real character stands revealed. These teachings cannot be denied or hidden.  {GC 557.2} 

Even in its present form, so far from being more worthy of toleration than formerly, it is really a more dangerous, because a more subtle, deception. While it formerly denounced Christ and the Bible, it now professes to accept both. But the Bible is interpreted in a manner that is pleasing to the unrenewed heart, while its solemn and vital truths are made of no effect. Love is dwelt upon as the chief attribute of God, but it is degraded to a weak sentimentalism, making little distinction between good and evil. God's justice, His denunciations of sin, the requirements of His holy law, are all kept out of sight. The people are taught to regard the Decalogue as a dead letter. Pleasing, bewitching fables captivate the senses and lead men to reject the Bible as the foundation of their faith. Christ is as verily denied as before; but Satan has so blinded the eyes of the people that the deception is not discerned.  {GC 558.1}     

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No New Posts   Smartphones and pioneer authors

March 21, 2024

Given the interest on this forum in early Advent literature, including the Spirit of Prophecy and various other authors like William Miller, I thought I would make a technical post that relates to this.

I personally have not done much with smartphones over the years.  I recently took a look at what I have, and realized that it would be considered obsolete, and I decided to upgrade.

So about a month ago, I got a new Android smartphone.

Once I had the phone, I started looking around to see what Android apps are available that are suitable for doing spiritual study.

I first looked at a number of Bible apps, and eventually decided to go with e-Sword.  I have the app configured with the KJV and ESV Bibles at the center.  These are study Bibles, and included are various auxiliary tools such as cross reference and Hebrew/Greek support.

I've also downloaded a variety of public domain commentaries and dictionaries that are provided with the app, with familiar names like Barnes, Clarke, Easton, and Smith.

This particular app is classified as "premium" on the Google Play Store, and this means that a one-time charge of $2.99 was applied to my credit card when I downloaded the app.

I then looked at the Spirit of Prophecy area, and downloaded "EGW Writings 2" from the Google Play Store.  I was not charged for this download.

The configuration of this app is such that you're asked initially about installing a core set of 120 Spirit of Prophecy books, with additional downloads possible after the fact.

In my particular case, I have home Internet service provided by Xfinity via cable, and the Xfinity modem sitting on my desk provides a local WiFi signal.

The WiFi is very fast, and because of this, I chose to download everything that is made available, and ended up with a set of more than 1400 items.  This includes a large number of additional Spirit of Prophecy resources, for example Devotionals, Periodicals, and Manuscript Releases.

This also includes many pioneer authors, for example Joseph Bates, William Miller, and Uriah Smith, and many of these authors are grouped into a collection called "Adventist Pioneer Library", with about 675 items in it.

This particular collection also includes some more recent authors, for example Froom's "Conditionalist Faith of Our Fathers" and "Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers".

Since I downloaded everything, the installed app is relatively large, and is reported at around 5 GB in size, which is pretty big for an Android app.

Whether downloading everything makes sense depends on several factors, including interest in particular authors, the availability of WiFi versus cell networks, and the availability of smartphone storage for the various databases.

I am a long-time Bible and Spirit of Prophecy student, and have done most of my study using various apps on my desktop PC, and am always on the lookout for additional study tools.  Both of the apps mentioned above seem to have a lot of potential.

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No New Posts   Advent shield

February 18, 2024

At this important crisis, the Advent Shield, was published, reviewing all the past movement, especially the prophetic periods, showing that we had followed them down correctly. We quote from Vol.i, No.1, p.87. . 

 

From the foregoing historical facts, the unbiased reader will not fail to see with what wonderful speed the glorious doctrine of the second advent of our Lord and Saviour spread throughout the whole habitable globe, and then ceased as suddenly, with those who were proclaiming it, as daylight with the setting sun. Those who were engaged in this most solemn work were some of the honest and faithful from all the churches. Said the Advent Shield, p.92: . 

 

 

 

 

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No New Posts   Did W. Miller reject the pre-advent judgement and the reality of final work in the heavenly Sanctuary after 1844?

February 13, 2024

From Bro. Miller.

[From the Day Star.]

TO THE SECOND ADVENT BRETHREN.

Many of you have enquired, Where is Br. Miller? and, What are his views now? I first thank you, my brethren, for your solicitude for me, and now permit me to give you my settle and firm conviction of our present position.

In reviewing my former convictions of the truth of God's word, I am not in the least shaken. I have still the same unwavering confidence in its inspiration and truth, as ever. As it respects the way, or rules, by which we are to get a true understanding of the same, and a knowledge of its doctrines, precepts, and promises, I have in no case yet detected an error. As it respects the prophecies, and the mode we have used to understand their fulfillment, I am not yet prepared to give up my confidence in. Where in then, say you, is there any difficulty? I answer. Time has shown us there is a wrong some where, and now we are under obligation, say our opposers, to correct that wrong, or give up the whole ground, and go back to them. I know of no stronger obligation for us to correct a wrong if we have one, than they are under to correct us if they can, and I am absolutely certain that they have shown no better light, and in many cases not near as good, as we have, especially on prophetic chronology.

If I was obliged to give up the mode which Protestant commentators have formerly adopted, and follow Stewart or Chase, or any which I have seen of modern writers who have opposed our views, I must give up my bible as a weak, silly, inefficient revelation, of so little consequence to us, that it would lose its whole value o me But they cannot be true. What then, ay you, is the wrong? I will answer you acording to the best light I now have. And I hope to humble myself in such a manner as to receive more or better light if God or any of you should give me such.

I cannot see as we were wrong in the chronology. That the prophetic numbers did close in 1844, I can have but little doubt. What then was there worthy of note that could be said answer to the ending of the periods under these numbers so emphatically describing the end? I answer. The first thing I will notice is, "The hour of his Judgment is come." I ask, is there any thing in the scriptures to show that the hour has not come, or in our present position to show, that God is not now in his last Judicial character deciding the cases of all the righteous, so that Christ (speaking after the manner of men) will know whom to collect at his coming, or the angels may know whom to gather, when they are sent to gather together the elect, whom God has in this hour of his Judgment justified? Rom 8: 33. We cannot be present until we are collected, and we must be justified, and our names all registered in the Lamb's book of Life, and the books be opened before we can be well examined by the angels. And what is the order of the Judgment? Deut. 9-11; Rev.20: 4, 5, 11, 12. First, the thone, and him that sat on it, called the Ancient of days. Thousands thousands ministered to him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The Judgment must set, and books be opened. Then the great whore must be judged, and then will appear the Son of Man in the clouds of heaven, when the saints will be raised, the living changed, and both caught up to meet the Lord in the air. The earth cleansed by fire, the wicked and all the works of man burned up. The kingdom of the saints given to the Son of Man under the whole heaven, and he is to reign for ever and ever. This is the order as given by the Prophets and Apostles, and in their very language. I know no rule to change the order of these events [any?] more than the words, and to do either [would?] in my opinion be the highest kind of sacrilege we could commit. I have believed that the [scene?] set in heaven would be the first thing which mortals on earth would see, and would be the sign of the approach of the Son of [man in?] sight of which would cause all [ther the bes of?]  the earth, to mourn and produce the cry to the rocks and mountains to fall upon them, and hide them from the face of him that sitteth on the throne. This would be a sign no mortal would or could mistake, and would produce the effect spoken of by the Savior, as worded by Matt. 24: 30. Yet I am not positive, that man in his mortal state, while he tabernacles in corruptable flesh will be able to see this glory and live. It also seems by John's description of this event, Rev. 19:1, 2, 11, that the scene of the Judgment begins in heaven, and the first thing mortals on earth will see, will be the messenger of God, Rev. 20: 1, who is Jesus Christ, descending from God to execute the Judgment written in heaven, and fulfill the decrees and promises made in heaven by him who sitteth on the great white throne. See Rev. 2: 4-7,11; Hab 2:20; Zech. 2: 8-13. "After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you." If this is true, who can say God is not already justifying his Sanctuary, and will yet justify us in preaching the time?

I am yet on the rock of presumption, as Bro. Storrs calls it, and I can not honestly get off. To jump into every boat that comes along and call each of them truth, and then delusion, How shall I ever know I am in the truth? I think I can see two great leaks in Bro. S.'s boat Truth, and I hope he will find it out, before it dashes on the breakers of the world's applause, or swamps on the quicksands of unbelief. One of these will be the end of his voyage if he continues in his present perilous position. I am on the rock yet. I know my Captain will not fail. True I expected the Steamer the same time it started from the heavenly port, herein I might have been a little careless in not discovering the exact time it would take to arrive at the rock. Therefore, I must wait, and have patience. I did not go on to the rock for a few days only, and then to jump on to the first boat that come along, especially one where I found in all the scoffers and worldlings. No, no; I believe God will justify our times yet: I may not be able to tell how, but that is no reason why I should give up my faith. Could Abraham tell how he was a going to receive Isaac as from the dead, until the event declared it? Certainly not. I expected Christ on the tenth day of the seventh month, and looked for him. Was that presumption? We are commanded to watch and look, and why not on that day as well as any other? If we are right in believing in experimental religion, I am sure I never experienced a more holy and benificent effect in my life than then. And one thing I do know, if the Advent brethren were ever blessed they were then. Surely this does not look like presumption, any more than Abraham offering his son, or Jonah preaching forty days. I will acknowledge, to believe without evidence would be presumption, or to say, "if it did not come we then it could not come under fifty years." Such views and expressions I have no fellowship for, these are the like, are out of our own hearts, and come under the text, Deut. 18: 20-22 .--But who can honestly say, we have no evidence that he might come then? The evidence that Bro. S. admits, that he is near even at the door, is enough for my purpose. And I am thankful to God that I was on the rock then, and I hope to remain strong in faith, making no compromise with the flesh, or despisers of our hope. I have no guilt in proclaiming time, for the time on is by God revealed, and wherever the mistake may be it is not in my power to rectify it, I must leave that with God. I am then waiting patiently for God to reveal the mystery of time or 1843, and the movement of the 7th month. I deny that either of those times was a lie. - See Webster's definition of a Lie. We can only be mistaken in the precise time, the facts will prove the truth yet.

 

I am as ever, yours,

WM. MILLER.

Low Hampton, March 20, 1845.

(From the Day-Star.)

Poll   Audiobook

January 4, 2024

https://youtu.be/TkSLbfLZWSg

Above you can find F.G. Brown's "VIEWS AND EXPERIENCE IN RELATION TO ENTIRE CONSECRATION AND THE SECOND ADVENT" in audio format at the link above. James White republished this book in 1859 to show "the spirit of the great Advent movement, and the deep work of grace in those whom God led out to look for the coming of his Son"

 

I want to continue making available audio materials containing the Second Advent message as originally preached by those who had experience in the 1844 Millerite movement. Before deciding what book should be next, I would like to take a survey from you. Thank you in advance for your answers!

 

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Last Post: February 11th by EarlySDA

 

No New Posts   Promises that are unconditional

July 26, 2023

Genesis 9:11 KJV

And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

 

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No New Posts   Question about Testimonies for the Church

February 13, 2022

Hey!

Could you please help me understand which Testimonies for the Church are the ultimate originals to be used? I'm kinda confused about it because there are various books called Testimonies for the Church. All those that i saw seem to be original but some were single books with 1 testimony each or there were books with a compilation of a few testimonies in them. For example, you have uploaded on your site 1 PDF file with a compilation of testimonies 1-10 in which page numbering is not in sequence and i on the other hand have single PDFs of each testimony from 1 to 10. Also on your site it says "There are 37 volumes in the original "Testimony for the Church" series."" and here are maximum of 30 in PDF format or 22 in RTF format. I for example have 33 PDFs of testimonies, each being 1 from no.1 to 33, meaning that i probably lack 4 of them. Please help me understand which are the correct testimonies series in the end.

Thank you.

Best regards and God bless you,

Mike

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Last Post: January 3rd by EarlySDA

 

No New Posts   Was it crystal-clear for the Millerites that the Ottoman Empire fell in August 1840?

August 10, 2023

THE TURKISH EMPIRE:

If the following rumor be true, the Ottoman power will soon be in the hands of Russia. In that case, the seventh angel will quickly sound the last trump and finish the scene. Are we ready?

 

RUSSIA AND TURKE Y.

            The Hamburg papers state that letters from the principalities on the Danube have been received in Hamburg, alleging that extraordinary sensation had been caused in the higher circles by the intelligence, said to have been received front St, Petersbnrg, that endeavors are making on the the part of Russia to unite Servia, Wallachia, and Moldavia, with the adjacent Turkish provinces, into a kingdom, under the supremacy of Turkey and the protection of Russia.

            The report adds that the Duke of Leuchtenberg is destined to be the sovereign of this new kingdom; whereas, according to their accounts, Russia would leave the choice entirely to the Porte and the great European powers. Some steps are said to have been already taken at Constantinople to bring about this project, which is considered as the only means of relieving the Porte from difficulties with which it is surrounded on every side. It seems that some intimations have been made at Viennaat least this is thought to explain the reports in circulationrespecting the object of the Emperor of Russias visit to the British capital.

 

(VOICE OF TRUTH AND GLAD TIDINGS, July 27, 1844)

No New Posts   What truth?

April 7, 2022

Specifically WHAT TRUTH is sanctifying??

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No New Posts   Original Pillars of our faith 1874

March 4, 2023

EGW says that not one pillar of our faith should be changed or removed 

 

what are the pillars from that time that we need for our foundation?

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Last Post: December 11th by Shireen

 

No New Posts   Promises that are Conditional

July 26, 2023

Perseverance in prayer has been made a condition of receiving.   SC. p 97

 

 

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No New Posts   Rev. 14

February 8, 2023

Revelation 14:1

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

 

The lamb of God is Jesus Christ. 
Mt Zion is the great city in heaven. 
The 144k are the special group that went through the great tribulation. 
The Fathers name written in the forehead means that they are sealed and the name is not seen of man but angels. 

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Last Post: Aug 22, 2023 by Nb

 

No New Posts   We have a problem

August 19, 2022

There must be earnest effort to obtain the blessing of the Lord, not because God is not willing to bestow his blessing upon us, but because we are unprepared to receive it. Our Heavenly Father is more willing to give his Holy Spirit to them that ask him, than are earthly parents to give good gifts to their children. But it is our work, by confession, humiliation, repentance, and earnest prayer, to fulfill the conditions upon which God has promised to grant us his blessing. RH March 22,1887

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