new video about the sabbath

Date: Dec 18, 2016

new video about the sabbath

Date: Dec 19, 2016

During the presentation : The obedient woman was assigned outer darkness, the disobeyer was welcomed into eternal life - is that all the entire presentation ? Where is the presentation headed ?

Date: Dec 22, 2016

Thanks for your input, Ed.

That is all to the video. It is to show Sunday keepers how ridiculous it will look in the judgment when their name comes up, and they are shown to be keeping a day that has nothing to do with the day Jesus kept.

Maybe I need to make it clearer......

Date: Dec 23, 2016

I like how you correctly have the nail hole in Jesus' HAND.... so many now deny this
both kjv bible and original SOP say in the hand...

Date: Dec 23, 2016

Maybe have the other speaker ask just such questions.

Date: Dec 24, 2016

quote - " It is to show Sunday keepers how ridiculous it will look in the judgment when their name comes up, and they are shown to be keeping a day that has nothing to do with the day Jesus kept. "

Unfortunately this reinforces the current view of the <Bible Belt> that they are saved in disobedience and are delivered to do all these offenses, and once saved, remain saved, and there is no judgment going on till the Second Coming, then they will stop sinning and be welcomed into Heaven, that all efforts to obey the Ten Commandments are meeting with God's curse and law keepers are cursed and the real redeemed are themselves because they feel it so.

The video as is now built, fully reinforces their present non Biblical position and confirms them in their traditions. They would cling to it with both arms and reject the clearest words of Scripture, in our group Bible Study, this has been literally done, and the person left the study citing theological differences, and the largest majority of people contacted, saying "we have our own church" in essence saying "we want our traditions- Bible or not". The ridiculous is what they want and cling to. Continue the video, with the second person stating "that position is not what You have taught in Scripture for thousands of years" Then the One with holes in His hands replies - "You are correct" "but what was just said that is not in the Bible is what folks want to believe so they are validated in holding to their idols" "instead of worshiping in spirit and in truth" as Scripture says it." then show the same clip as the first with the obedient saved and the unrepentant sinner > outer darkness - Jesus speaking - "this is what Scripture teaches and what I enforce." Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Hebrews 5:

5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

To Fear God Biblically = (what Jesus did ) ='s ( using rule of first mention in studying Scripture)

Deuteronomy 10:

12 ¶ And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

13 To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?

Deuteronomy 30: 1 ¶ And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.

4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Jesus asked him in essence - who he thought Jesus was, just a man, or God in human flesh ? Then told him to obey God, and showed him he worshiped his riches. Called the man to follow Himself and become an Apostle. The man refused. No more salvation for that man, he ever worshiped his stuff.

Date: Dec 25, 2016

To misunderstand this video to mean that Jesus is happy with someone breaking his Sabbath commandment, one would have to:

1. Believe that the consensus of scholars is more important than what is written in the Bible

2. Not understand what the question marks are intended for

3. Not believe/understand the Bible texts supplied

4. Miss catching the overall tone of showing how ridiculous it is to obey what men say, over God:s holy words in the Bible

Maybe it is true that someone will make all those mistakes.... so maybe I should add more dialogue to show that view to be false.

Date: Dec 25, 2016

On Fri nights we have a group Bible Study, one of our number believed just that Jesus does not want us to obey, despite what the Bible says. That's why I said what I said. It is a strong delusion in the bible belt of the USA.

Date: Dec 27, 2016

Ed Sutton wrote:
On Fri nights we have a group Bible Study, one of our number believed just that Jesus does not want us to obey, despite what the Bible says. That's why I said what I said. It is a strong delusion in the bible belt of the USA.

It's interesting to note that the SOP mentions a large group within the church who talk about the third angel's message, but are unwilling to follow through and obey the truth.

As the storm approaches, a large class who have professed faith in the third angel's message, but have not been sanctified through obedience to the truth, abandon their position and join the ranks of the opposition. By uniting with the world and partaking of its spirit, they have come to view matters in nearly the same light; and when the test is brought, they are prepared to choose the easy, popular side. Men of talent and pleasing address, who once rejoiced in the truth, employ their powers to deceive and mislead souls. They become the most bitter enemies of their former brethren. When Sabbathkeepers are brought before the courts to answer for their faith, these apostates are the most efficient agents of Satan to misrepresent and accuse them, and by false reports and insinuations to stir up the rulers against them. {GC 608.2}

Date: Dec 29, 2016

" On Fri nights we have a group Bible Study, one of our number believed just that Jesus does not want us to obey, despite what the Bible says. That's why I said what I said. It is a strong delusion in the bible belt of the USA. "

That person was not SDA and exemplifies many non SDA's - to them obedience deny's Calvary. They would love the video just as shown with the obedient going to outer darkness.