Rahab, we just need to find out if our thesis on all things will stand investigation and I have found many do not.
Now what are the seven heads of the first beast of Revelation? It is very simple, since we know the Papacy is the one head of the seven that got wounded then it falls the rest are the same, religious systems! Scripture in Re 17: bears this out and I will give my see of them and contend if any care to.
Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Re 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. Re 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
The seven heads are all religious systems, all and each claiming to be a mountain of a god or the True God. OK, we here have a "woman" that sits on them. These are seven kings and five of them have fallen, that is proved false as the True one has a Proven Saviour, the one John sees "as one is." Now those five fallen and the True one make up six.
John states "the other is not yet come." of which would be #7 and this has to be the apostates that would fall away from the one True one and will continue but a short space.
Yes the apostate ones will not last long as now we see clearly the reign of sin God is soon now to bring to an end as the harvest of the earth is surely right at the point of being declared to be ripe. Of the apostates Protestantism rose up last and is less than 500 yrs. of age. With Yah a day is a thousand yrs. so even the first great apostate is but going to run but a short space for sure also.
So again who is the mother or woman that John saw sitting upon them all. Sitteth or reigns over?
Now don't we all know who the eighth is and will be? He is a religion all of himself, Satan! Yes at one time he made no bones of who he was but now even many preachers will preach there is no literal Satan just an influence to evil.
No one has seen him so he is not these last days and when he does appear it won't be as himself, he is a great disguise artist!
Do you see why I wonder?
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Just a dab more, Satan "WAS" until he was cast out into the bottomless pit of which when he is allowed can come out. Scripture states he was cast "into" the earth.
Re 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beastthat was, and is not, and yet is. Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
We need to note the scripture states "seven heads" and not seven hills as most want to change it out to. "Heads" is a figurative speech here and we must determine what they are from the text. As noted before that is easy since scripture tells us the "ONE" head that got wounded we know is the Papacy, a religious system. The rest must then be the same or we must find positive scripture to show different.
Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
So we can know from that, that he must then come up out of it! "check mate!"
Re 13:11 ¶ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
I thought I made it clear that the heads are the religious systems.The seven heads are all religious systems, all and each claiming to be a mountain of a god or the True God. OK, we here have a "woman" that sits on them. That means has influence over them..
If as you are saying since the Papacy is one of the heads, it then is a literal mountain. Yes as all the rest it claims to be of our God, in other words, the true church, the true religion but none are.
There is but one that has not been prevailed against by the gates of hell and has His, Jesus's guarantee, His Word, hear Him!
Mt 16:18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
We will add a bit more today that I find pertinent to this subject.
The woman that sits on the seven heads which the Papacy is one of the seven is today known as Israel. Yes she more or less reigns over all the seven and the Pope is a Jew. All of Protestantism today sounds the call, "we must bless Israel" and the Pope is leaning that way also.
It don't matter a lot to me what most want to take on this, but as Daniel has stated,
Da 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Ro 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Ro 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Just as in the days of Jesus it is today of all that are claiming to be His people, spiritual Jews, and are not, this statement of His is for our day also,
Re 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Now, please think about what has changed from the days back yon to these days.
Also who do you find has the more influence over all the world than any other people? What do you think?
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
So, are you saying that you do not believe the bible when it says that the 7 heads are 7 mountains?
Re 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven headsare seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
I'm going to say here that I do not believe that the 7 mountains are literal. Unfortunately this came from early instruction that I received from the church that came from some of the pioneers that were wrong. I believe that the 7 mountains represent kingdoms of this earth. Revelation is so filled with symbolism that it is difficult to know when it is literal or symbolic or both at times. It is a continual study of the bible and originals that can be trusted.
Gibs, your paragraph "The woman that sits on the seven heads which the Papacy is one of the seven is today known as Israel. Yes she more or less reigns over all the seven and the Pope is a Jew. All of Protestantism today sounds the call, "we must bless Israel" and the Pope is leaning that way also." is nonsense.
This desire for "secret", "forbidden" information proved the downfall of Eve. Please don't repeat her sin.
Really is it nonsense because it is not what U. Smith has got Adventism to believe. Another thing you are not realizing is it is dangerous in this world to reveal too much. Men recently have died for doing so. Their deaths are covered up at great cost and there is a power in this world you and most are not on to that is behind it and 911 atrocity!
People for the most part never question stuff that comes down from the top and this goes for their beloved church structures as the lying government. It isn't never the "LITTLE" people who are the masters of getting errors across!
I find it has come to the time that the truth of about everything today is not wanted. The demand is for smooth things, keep me feeling good where I am is the call heard from about all!
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Because it looks to me as it isn't wanted but learning of the world and it's glories oh yes!
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Using the EGW Research CD Rom Disk > going to the words of the pioneers > looking up "seven mountains" it seems a lot of folks had a lot of opinions on this and published their differing views, creating confusion and antagonistic debates.
Such strife is not preparation to be part of, and join in, the loud cry.
The problem is there is a correct view. I also get 0 when I search "seven mountains." Ed what words did you use to search?
It has to stand to reason that we know the Papacy is the one head that got wounded and so the other 6 must be the same. I can't find EGW said anything on this subject.
