Two Calendar so Two Passovers!

Date: May 22, 2015

Two Calendar so Two Passovers!

Date: May 22, 2015

Gibs, I'm amazed you are so willing to discard the Spirit of Prophecy and Bible in order to support ridiculous theories.

In the video it states that after Jesus ate the Passover, he went out to the Mount of Olives and spent the whole day there!

It also has other strange things about there being 2 days difference between the Jewish calendar and God's calendar etc.

It is very good to study God's calendar, as there are many truths hidden like pearls in it. Unfortunately, the videos you would have us watch are leading us to the swine.

BTW, Larry Wilson (video maker) was the one who came up with the Jubilee calendar and said the end time would start in 1994 and Jesus come back by 1998.

BEWARE!

Date: May 23, 2015

No, Webmaster, Larry is not wrong here as it is a fact the apostate Jews began the month by sighting the first sliver and at times the first sliver cannot be seen because of the setting sun in the west where the moon is coming up and so at times they started the month 2 days late. Their method was known as the Babylonian method. It is revealed by some of Paul's travels that there were two Passovers as when he left one place having Passover and two days latter got to another place and Passover again.

Jesus and His true followers on these occasions calculated it and this was a know fact to have to do in those days.

No Larry was not the one who came up with the Jubilee calendar, it is one of God's great time clocks and is the calendar all yr. for a day prophecy is given on. It was reintroduced to the people in scripture and at that time Larry had thought was the beginning but was not but now I would think he has seen different.

Enoch reveals that it was from all eternity past and will be into all eternity future. So at this point we need to realize something and that is, the first yr. of earth and Adam and Eves, first yr. was a new beginning, a first yr. of a 49 yr. cycle and also a fiftieth yr. a Jubilee. The first yr. of the 49 yr. cycle is always the fiftieth Yr. also and scripture does explain that.

Peruse the Jubilee calendar here and learn a lot, http://itsaboutthattime.net/Calendar_Synopsis.htm The Jubilee calendar proves it's self if we will but see it out and not be hung up on pre conceived ideas. Most do not realize that the Jubilee calendar is not a cycle of 50 but of 7 times 7 cycles.

Know this and know it well, Jesus died precisely in the middle yr. of the last 70 wks. of yrs. allotted to the Jews to finish the transgression and then the gospel dispensation went to the Gentiles, and another new beginning AD34, #1 yr. of a new 49 cycle and also the 50'th yr. a Jubilee. Let us advance to increasing light that is ever increasing if we do not stagnate.

Another thing the Jubilee calendar will reveal to the wise is the fact we are extremely near the end of this horrible reign of sin. How close to ending it precisely at 6,000 yrs. is God's call only and so we cannot and would be foolish for us to try and set even what we might decipher to be the time.

Date: May 23, 2015

To add a bit to the above, that last wk. of yrs. was the yrs. 27AD,28,29-"30"-31,32,33AD and in this wk. of yrs. Jesus confirmed the covenant with "many" and in the midst of the wk. He caused sacrifice and oblation to cease as His death fulfilled all it pointed to. His disciples finished out the wk. in confirming the covenant.

Da 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Da 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Da 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Da 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Noteworthy to is the fact 457BC the date given to know when to start the 70 wks. of yrs., 490 yrs. would take us to the end of 33AD and so AD34 is a Jubilee and so the Jubilee before it would be the yr. 16BC because the yr. count goes dn. to 1BC and then the count begins again with 1AD through 33AD and so 16 yrs. plus 33 yrs. is 49.

Noteworthy also is the fact the decree date also is a Jubilee yr. Count Jubilee yrs. back from the yr. 34AD ten Jubilees and it brings us to the Yr. 457BC

Yes let us do the math. Do you not know Jesus is the "Wonderful Numberer".

Da 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

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Daniel 8:13

one saint. Da 4:13; 7:16; 12:5-6; De 33:2; Zec 1:9-12; 2:3; 14:5; 1Th 3:13; 1Pe 1:12; Jude 1:14

that certain saint. or, the numberer of secrets, or, the wonderful numberer. Heb. Palmoni. Jg 13:18; Isa 9:6; Mt 11:27; Lu 10:22; Joh 1:18

How. Da 12:6; Ps 74:9; 79:5; Isa 6:11; Re 6:10

the vision. Da 8:11-12

and the. Da 9:27; 11:31; 12:11; Mt 24:15; Mr 13:14; Lu 21:20

of desolation. or, making desolate. to be. Da 7:23; Isa 63:18; Lu 21:24; Heb 10:29; Re 11:2

Some make the Jubilee calendar to start a yr. sooner and this cannot be then as one loses all the important hinge pins, Jubilees that are a positive anchor to the precise date of Adam and the new earth at that time. 457BC being just one of them, and a Jubilee yr..

Date: May 23, 2015

No Larry never said that time would end in 1998 but he did rightly state our last Jubilee yr. was 1994 and that would be 5978 yrs. beginning with Adams first yr. and so to 6,000 yrs. we would need 22 more yrs. and so I know Larry never saw the time of the end to be 1998 but add 22 to 1994 and you can know fairly close to when God will choose to close this reign of sin. That would be the yr. 2016 but God starts a new yr. with the spring equinox and so we would by our calendar be about mid March.

Know this, Yah will when the angel announces put in thy sickle and reap the harvest of earth is ripe it will end and that is at the doors like it or not!

Re 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
Re 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Re 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
Re 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Re 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Laodiceans, we are rich and in need of nothing now for many a yr. but are poor blind and naked instead!

Re 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Re 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Re 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Re 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Re 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Re 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Re 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Re 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Date: May 23, 2015

I am pressed to add this to this discussion, please read and consider carefully! Note! He, God takes it from one and gives to another

"God Works With Those Who Are Faithful to Him

The Lord Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected Christ, the Prince of life, He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every branch of His work. {LDE 59.1}

When a church proves unfaithful to the word of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling, the Lord can no longer work with them. Others are then chosen to bear important responsibilities. But, if these in turn do not purify their lives from every wrong action, if they do not establish pure and holy principles in all their borders, then the Lord will grievously afflict and humble them and, unless they repent, will remove them from their place and make them a reproach.--14MR 102 (1903). {LDE 59.2}
"Judged by the Light Bestowed"

In the balances of the sanctuary the Seventh-day Adventist church is to be weighed. She will be judged by the privileges and advantages that she has had. If her spiritual experience does not correspond to the advantages that Christ, at infinite cost, has bestowed on her, if the blessings conferred have not qualified her to do the work entrusted to her, on her will be pronounced the sentence: "Found wanting." By the light bestowed, the opportunities given, will she be judged. . . . {LDE 59.3}

Solemn admonitions of warning, manifest in the destruction of dearly cherished facilities [THE BATTLE CREEK SANITARIUM, THE LARGEST AND BEST-KNOWN ADVENTIST INSTITUTION IN THE WORLD, BURNED TO THE GROUND FEBRUARY 18, 1902. THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY THE DESTRUCTION OF THE REVIEW AND HERALD PUBLISHING ASSOCIATION, ALSO BY FIRE, ON DECEMBER 30, 1902.] for service, say to us: "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works" (Revelation 2:5). . . . {LDE 60.1}

Unless the church, which is now being leavened with her own backsliding, shall repent and be converted, she will eat of the fruit of her own doing, until she shall abhor herself. When she resists the evil and chooses the good, when she seeks God with all humility and reaches her high calling in Christ, standing on the platform of eternal truth and by faith laying hold upon the attainments prepared for her, she will be healed. She will appear in her God-given simplicity and purity, separate from earthly entanglements, showing that the truth has made her free indeed. Then her members will indeed be the chosen of God, His representatives.--8T 247-251 (April 21, 1903). {LDE 60.2}

Israel's History a Warning to Us

In these last days God's people will be exposed to the very same dangers as were ancient Israel. Those who will not receive the warnings that God gives will fall into the same perils as did ancient Israel and come short of entering into rest through unbelief. Ancient Israel suffered calamities on account of their unsanctified hearts and unsubmitted wills. Their final rejection as a nation was a result of their own unbelief, self-confidence, impenitence, blindness of mind, and hardness of heart. In their history we have a danger signal lifted before us. {LDE 60.3}

"Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. . . . For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end" (Hebrews 3:12, 14).--Letter 30, 1895. {LDE 61.1}

It is coming down now fast to the few who will be of that elusive number that are the Saints in the end upon us now, the 144,000!

Date: May 24, 2015

Jesus with his disciples now left the upper chamber, and crossed
the brook Kedron. Sorrow and anguish again pressed heavily upon his
heart. With touching sadness he addressed his companions: "All ye shall
be offended because of me this night;..."Verily I say unto thee, that this day,
even in this night, before the **** crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice."...
Jesus now repaired with his disciples to the garden of Gethsemane,
at the foot of Mount Olivet, a retired place which he had often visited
for seasons of communion with his Father. It was night;

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Larry Wilson needs to repent of spreading false theories. To make up his new calendar theory, he has Jesus wasting a whole day after Passover up on the Mount of Olives, something that is totally refuted in the Bible and SOP. He also definitely did proclaim the end of time in 1994, and I know of at least one person who took all their money at that time and bought some property and lived way out in the boonies for around a year or so waiting for the Lord's return.

It is fanatics like this who make it difficult for those who are pressing to know the truth. It is true that there is a gold mine of information in understanding God's calendar, but when people make ridiculous statements to support their theories, it makes the work that much harder for those trying to get people to understand the calendar.

Date: May 24, 2015

It is very clear that our Webmaster do not agree on this. However I want any and all to read the scriptures I find proves the point. I am not prolific at things so keep sharp,

Mr14:12 ¶ And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

Mr14:13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.

Mr14:14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

Mr14:15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.

Mr14:16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.

Mr14:17 And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.

Lu22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

Lu22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

According to the commandment then,--Ex12:22 And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.

Mr14:26 And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.

Mr14:32 ¶ And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.

Mr14:37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?

Mr14:40 And when he returned, he found them asleep again, (for their eyes were heavy,) neither wist they what to answer him. (no sleep all night)

Mr14:41 And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.

Mr14:42 Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.

Mr14:43 ¶ And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.

Mr14:44 And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely.

Mr14:45 And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him

Mr14:46 And they laid their hands on him, and took him.

Mr15:1 ¶ And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.

Joh18:28 ¶ Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover. (it is clear they had not eaten Passover yet!)

Joh18:29 Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man?

Joh18:30 They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.

Joh19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

Mr15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Mr15:33 ¶ And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.

Mr15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mr15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

Mr15:42 ¶ And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

Mr15:43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counseller, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

Mr15:46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.

Joh19:31 ¶ The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. (It was a high day to them because it was

Date: May 24, 2015

The following did not get on above post,

(It was a high day to them because it was the Sabbath and they had Passover, but as we have noted Jesus and His Disciples had eaten it before!)

Here is another that is awake and knows there were two Passovers, please read it,

http://www.breadoflifebiblestudy.com/Lessons/22OurJewishRoots/Articles/TwoPassovers.pdf

WARNING, this link has specious error, saying that the biblical day didn't end at sunset, but at midnight!

-- Edited by EarlySDA on Monday 25th of May 2015 03:41:43 PM

Date: May 24, 2015

An excerpt from the link above link,

BEFORE AND AFTER CHRIST'S DEATH

Scripture records Passover being observed before and after the death of Christ!

Matt 26:17 ... the disciples came to Jesus, saying to Him, "Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the

Passover?"

18 And He said, "Go into the city to a certain man, and say to him, 'The Teacher says, "My time is at hand; I

will keep the Passover at your house with My disciples"'"

19 So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they

prepared the Passover.

Luke 22:15 Then He said to them, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;"

AFTER

John 18:28 Then they led Jesus from Caiaphas to the Praetorium, and it was early morning. But they themselves did

not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the Passover.

BEFORE

Matt 26:17 ... the disciples came to Jesus, saying to Him, "Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the

Passover?" 18 And He said, "Go into the city to a certain man, and say to him, 'The Teacher says, "My time is at hand; I

will keep the Passover at your house with My disciples"'" 19 So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they

prepared the Passover.

Luke 22:15 Then He said to them, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;"

AFTER

John 18:28 Then they led Jesus from Caiaphas to the Praetorium, and it was early morning. But they themselves did

not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the Passover.

Date: May 25, 2015

The facts of the matter are, Larry Wilson says that Jesus and his disciples ate the Passover on Wednesday nite, then spent all day Thursday on Mt. Olives, then came down into Jerusalem again on Thursday nite where he was arrested etc. That is disproven by the inspired words.

Let's believe God's words.

Date: May 26, 2015

Dear folks you need to go to the top post to find the links that are the subject of this post as I am not allowed to bring them down. Yes I am the OP of this thread as I started it.

Date: May 27, 2015

No, Larry does not say Jesus and His Disciples ate the Passover on Wednesday but at Wednesday twilight prepared the Lamb and then ate the Passover Thursday and stayed in the house all night and then went to Mount of Olives.

Please scroll to the top and click the second link and hear the last half of it, He has it correct.

It is also correct, Jesus was crucified before they ate their Passover and this verse proves it,

Joh 18:28 ¶ Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the Passover. (Jesus and His had already eaten the Passover)

Then at twilight they would prepare their lamb and Jesus died around 3:00PM and so they eat the Passover on Sabbath and Jesus and His eat it two days before.

Scripture proves it you need not take my word or Larry's!

Date: May 28, 2015

No, Larry says that Jesus and his disciples ate the Passover on what is today normally called "Wednesday night". Then Jesus and his disciples went up on the Mount of Olives all day Thursday, then came back down into Jerusalem on Thursday night where Jesus was taken.

Larry Wilson has misled people with claiming the Jubilee pointed to the time of the end in 1994, and he is still misleading people today. I don't know how he gets permission to speak in our SDA churches, but then again, people like Dwight Nelson who say that the god of the Muslims is the same God as we serve get permission to speak not only in our churches, but to be the main speaker for worldwide SDA evangelistic series!

Date: May 28, 2015

We must go by the fact with God and not men a new day begins at sundown and you are miscued because you don't.

Now, Larry has pointed out that 1994 was the last Jubilee yr. and the 122'nd and so is 5978 yrs. beginning with Adam's first yr. and man being on earth with 1994. So now we would add 21 yrs. to that number for this date and so that is 5999 at the end of this yr. which would actually end about mid March 2016 as God begins a yr. at the spring equinox.

As I have asked you to do, I would that you would delete this whole thread as you have made it of no value as the truth of the matter is covered up by you.

EGW actually seen the truth of this but you will not, not here folks she saw they had not done the Passover yet.

""Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early" [John 18:28]. The night was the most appropriate hour for their works of darkness, In these religious zealots, we have a sample of what humanity will do when they have the Word that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, and work directly contrary to it, irrespective of the consequences, the future retribution upon their neighbors or themselves. "We have a law," they say, "and by that law He ought to die" [John 19:7]. {19MR 163.2}
But these priests, scribes, and rulers were so exact in regard to their own maxims and traditions that they would not enter the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled, and that they might [might not be able to] eat the passover. The passover was a ceremony instituted by Christ Himself before His incarnation, but He who was the foundation of the whole Jewish economy was in their midst, His divinity clothed with humanity. Type was meeting antitype. And they had done unto Him as Satan had worked upon their deceived, deluded, hardened hearts to do. {19MR 163.3}

Jesus was led out early Friday before daylight and then in the daylight part of the day at aprox. 3:00PM Jesus died on the cross. This all is in the testimony by Larry but who will go to the top to get the link to look? None!

Webmaster I ask again, delete this thread as you will not let me be the OP!

Date: May 29, 2015

This is another and the last in this series. This one is a bit over 24 minutes and a lot is cleared up, one is Jesus did not spend 72 hr. in the tomb.

https://youtu.be/Cph7RUbT2vk?list=PLCjTA_z__OcqbeGgLKOlddZrFgcmNlaAO