GMOs

Date: Apr 26, 2014

GMOs

Date: Apr 26, 2014

I have google searched Dr Mercola and read his articles & the folks he works for, some things and premises I agree with in part, some foundational premises I strongly disagree with.

I do not trust Dr Mercola nor the folks he works for.

That said, I view GMO's in many cases, but not all cases, as Satan's inspiring scientists to primitively imitate as best they can the amalgamations, practiced in Noah's era . The era when people's thoughts were evil continually.

Some scientists are altruistically trying to better the food and health conditions, but they are hampered and misdirected by preconceived evolutionary prejudices and presuppositions.

mathematical fractals such as Mandelbrot Sets repeat infinitely and retain function symmetry beauty and order, despite reducing size by billions of orders of magnitude, exhausting computer computing ability to follow the magnitude journey either larger or smaller . I suspect the math of genetics shape, content, form, function, of living tissue genetics follows a similar phenomenon, showing all along the journey the design signature of Jesus Christ.

Satan is not capable of this perfection of craftsmanship in creation. Plus he would not even if he could - Satan hates our species and GMO by in large is another evolutionary theory process running amok - a cog in Satan's deliberately designed processes of- misery, suffering, and pain, destruction, that he delights to foist upon us.

Date: Apr 27, 2014

There is not a shadow of a doubt that our food supply is being ruined and there is a power in this world behind it. It is getting so we might be better off having our yards organic alfalfa and pasture on it. It is said to be the king of foods.

I do not question very much of anything Mercola comes out on. Don't think for a second he don't get a lot of flack as his testimonies are against the "flow." Lots of times the truth is more unbelievable than the lie. Why is because we have a mammoth big herd of deceivers that are super well oiled with SNLP. Most so called pastors today are well trained in it. We fought it here and raised a fire storm.

The world is not our friend and the small god of this world has it well under his finger except a few hard headed few whom now he is out hard after. So the word is "BEWARE".

1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
1Jo 4:7 ¶ Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

Date: Apr 27, 2014

Ed Sutton wrote:
I have google searched Dr Mercola and read his articles & the folks he works for, some things and premises I agree with in part, some foundational premises I strongly disagree with.

I do not trust Dr Mercola nor the folks he works for.

That said, I view GMO's in many cases, but not all cases, as Satan's inspiring scientists to primitively imitate as best they can the amalgamations, practiced in Noah's era . The era when people's thoughts were evil continually.
Some scientists are altruistically trying to better the food and health conditions, but they are hampered and misdirected by preconceived evolutionary prejudices and presuppositions.
mathematical fractals such as Mandelbrot Sets repeat infinitely and retain function symmetry beauty and order, despite reducing size by billions of orders of magnitude, exhausting computer computing ability to follow the magnitude journey either larger or smaller . I suspect the math of genetics shape, content, form, function, of living tissue genetics follows a similar phenomenon, showing all along the journey the design signature of Jesus Christ.
Satan is not capable of this perfection of craftsmanship in creation. Plus he would not even if he could - Satan hates our species and GMO by in large is another evolutionary theory process running amok - a cog in Satan's deliberately designed processes of- misery, suffering, and pain, destruction, that he delights to foist upon us.

Hi Ed,

I'm not a big fan of Mercola either as he promotes meat eating BUT I do trust the scientist that he interviewed to be telling the truth. Mercola's 'healthy' meat eating is no longer going to work either because they are feeding the 'grass fed' animals gmo alfalfa which is going to cause the same kinds of health problems that we currently experience. I'm against his stand on dairy as well. BUT hear me on this, the scientist was telling the truth about the research and what was done in the laboratory.

nb

Date: Apr 27, 2014

other gmos to avoid dairy [growth hormone that stimulates cancer growth as well], zucchini squash, yellow squash, Hawaiian papaya, and any animal that eats the gmo plants.

here is a list to avoid [and their derivatives]

corn
soy
sugar beets
canola oil
papaya
yellow neck squash (coatings)
zucchini (coatings)
cotton seed oil

Date: Apr 28, 2014

Googling Dr. Huber & GMO ='s productive results

https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#q=Dr.+Huber+plant+physiology+GMO

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?cmd=search&term=Huber%20SC%5Bau%5D&dispmax=50

https://search.mercer.edu/?q=GMO&x=0&y=0

http://www.life.illinois.edu/plantbio/People/Faculty/Huber.htm

http://www.grassfedexchange.com/speakers/

http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/errorhandler?hspart=gt&hsimp=yhse-gt&q=http%3A%2F%2Fsoilsecrets.comm%2Fdr-huber%2F&type=937811

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_28455.cfm

http://www.famu.edu/cesta/main/assets/File/Upcoming_Events/Huber%20Press%20Release%20Oct%202013.pdf

http://www.greenpasture.org/fermented-cod-liver-oil-butter-oil-vitamin-d-vitamin-a/important-paper-on-glyphosate---and-discussion-on-the-new-pathogen-effecting-plant-animal-and-human-fertility/?back=javascript:history.back();

http://www.gmoevidence.com/dr-huber-glyphosate-and-bee-colony-collapse-disorder-ccd/

http://www.agweb.com/assets/import/files/58P20-22.pdf

http://fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2011/apr/6/don-hubers-cover-letter-euuk-commissions/

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Listening to Dr Huber's lecture - could GMO grain have been eated by birds in Arkansas and one variety of sensitive birds the ones in the mass bird die off ?

Date: Apr 28, 2014

We had no problems keeping bees before farmers began using Round Up. It is bad stuff and no doubt about it. The following link will take you to

5 pages of Round Up evidence!

http://www.gmoevidence.com/location/roundup-evidence/

Date: Apr 28, 2014

Ed Sutton wrote:
Googling Dr. Huber & GMO ='s productive results
https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#q=Dr.+Huber+plant+physiology+GMO

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?cmd=search&term=Huber%20SC%5Bau%5D&dispmax=50

https://search.mercer.edu/?q=GMO&x=0&y=0

http://www.life.illinois.edu/plantbio/People/Faculty/Huber.htm

http://www.grassfedexchange.com/speakers/

http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/errorhandler?hspart=gt&hsimp=yhse-gt&q=http%3A%2F%2Fsoilsecrets.comm%2Fdr-huber%2F&type=937811

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_28455.cfm

http://www.famu.edu/cesta/main/assets/File/Upcoming_Events/Huber%20Press%20Release%20Oct%202013.pdf

http://www.greenpasture.org/fermented-cod-liver-oil-butter-oil-vitamin-d-vitamin-a/important-paper-on-glyphosate---and-discussion-on-the-new-pathogen-effecting-plant-animal-and-human-fertility/?back=javascript:history.back();

http://www.gmoevidence.com/dr-huber-glyphosate-and-bee-colony-collapse-disorder-ccd/

http://www.agweb.com/assets/import/files/58P20-22.pdf

http://fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2011/apr/6/don-hubers-cover-letter-euuk-commissions/

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Listening to Dr Huber's lecture - could GMO grain have been eated by birds in Arkansas and one variety of sensitive birds the ones in the mass bird die off ?

Good question Ed... I don't know but it would seem to be a logical theory to investigate. Great links!

Date: Apr 28, 2014

Gibs wrote:
We had no problems keeping bees before farmers began using Round Up. It is bad stuff and no doubt about it. The following link will take you to
5 pages of Round Up evidence!
http://www.gmoevidence.com/location/roundup-evidence/

seems the farmers are at greatest risk

Date: Apr 29, 2014

Some are realizing it as they know the pollination is sorely needed. We can hardly ever see a honey bee here anymore and it tells in the garden too.

Date: Apr 30, 2014

As far as I can tell, there is only one place in the Bible that comments on this practice of genetic manipulation.

Leviticus 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

So it looks like it is OK to genetically manipulate things within their own kind, but not to mix kinds.

Regarding gluten intolerance, there are records of it among the population in various countries long before GMOs were dreamed of, and even today, gluten intolerance and celiac disease is spread around the world, even where there is no GMO crop production.

No doubt Satan is working feverishly as he sees his time is short, and what better way to get God's people off-track spiritually, than by messing with their bodies?

Date: May 3, 2014

According to Jeffrey Smith in England and Europe where gmos are banned, there is no incidence of gluten intolerance.

I wonder if preflood generations were doing such? I've always thought that dinosaurs were a strange concoction.

Date: May 3, 2014

Gluten intolerance does not seem to be recognized as a specific name for a disease. "Celiac" is the name for the medically recognized disease.

From Wikipedia on Celiac:

Increasingly, diagnoses are being made in asymptomatic persons as a result of increased screening; the condition is thought to affect between 1 in 1,750 and 1 in 105 people in the United States, and 1 in 100 in the UK. Coeliac disease is caused by a reaction to gliadin, a prolamin (gluten protein) found in wheat, and similar proteins found in the crops of the tribe Triticeae (which includes other common grains such as barley and rye).

So we see that there is basically the same percentage of the population with this in the UK (non-GMO) as in the US (GMO). Thus, one of Jeffrey Smith's arguments is shown to be false.

An Italian (!) study showed: Claims [about gluten-free diets] seem to increase daily, with no adequate scientific support to back them up, they write. This clamor has increased and moved from the Internet to the popular press, where gluten has become the new diet villain.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20120220/gluten-sensitivity-fact-or-fad

This Mayo Clinic study used blood samples from people up to 1954, long before GMOs were invented, and showed that there were positive instances of Celiac among the samples.

https://holisticprimarycare.net/news/1439-incidence-of-celiac-gluten-intolerance-on-the-rise-says-mayo-study

This Mayo article has what I consider to be, very good advice:

Maybe it's something about contemporary food preparation, or something about hygiene, he said. Alternatively, researchers have speculated that the rise could be attributed to greater consumption of processed wheat products like pastas and baked goods than in decades past, or it could be due to new forms of wheat, which were cross-bred by scientists in the 1950s to make hardier, shorter and better-growing plants.

Whatever the cause, the results called for greater surveillance. Were obviously not doing a great job from the medical perspective, said Dr. Murray. He suggested that patients should get tested for celiac disease before switching to a gluten-free diet, Going on the diet may delay diagnosis, and may lead to slowed growth in children.

He advised caution with genetic tests, suggesting that they should only be used under a physician's direction, because approximately 30% of the population has the genes for celiac disease, but most people never develop symptoms.

I notice that Jeffrey Smith makes some pretty wild claims, and am worried to see him on Walter Veith's broadcast giving the main talk. No doubt he has some good points, and we need to be careful of what we eat, but we also need to stay away from unsubstantiated sweeping statements about "they" trying to kill us all.

Date: May 3, 2014

transplanting and mixing and matching organs etc between animals and humans, along with reproductive acts between humans and beasts too. The Ica stones show many of these things going on.

Good thing God stopped that in its tracks. Surely it is getting close for him to stop us in our madness again.

Date: May 3, 2014

I believe the antediluvians were more advanced than us scientifically in many areas. They were doing head-transplanting and mixing and matching organs etc between animals and humans, along with reproductive acts between humans and beasts too. The Ica stones show many of these things going on.

Good thing God stopped that in its tracks. Surely it is getting close for him to stop us in our madness again.

Date: May 4, 2014

Gluten intolerance: it's pretty simple to diagnose.... go off all the grains that contain gluten and if one is not bloated anymore and experience a change in digestive problems then it is do to the gluten.... put it back in the diet and if the symptoms all return then you know for sure...

Jeremy Rifkin, Ralph Nader, Colin Campbell, etc. and others are also saying that gmos are bad and hurting our immune system and bodies in general.

I do not trust the companies that claim everything is okay and do their own research.

Date: May 4, 2014

no I do not believe that 'they' are trying to kill us but rather it is greed that is causing this snowball to roll... the companies 'do not care' about anything except the money and the more they make the better...

Date: May 4, 2014

Using the study you cited from 1948 and the incidence of celiac disease compared to today the increase is 4x.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/celiac-disease-becoming-more-common/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

J. Smith's study was based upon animal rat studies where they were fed gmos and then after the trial period tumors were measured and weighed and inspections of the digestive tracts performed. He also interviewed doctors with regard to their patients per treatment with non gmo diets and their results. He interviewed many veterinarians and farmers that worked with animals fed gmos. There was only one controlled human study in his research but many tissue sample studies with human tissue done and recorded. Most recently a study done in a canadian hospital of pregnant women blood tests that tested positive for Bt toxin in their blood and the baby's blood as well.

Date: May 4, 2014

Yes, agreed totally that the incidence of celiac disease is higher than it used to be. Instances of many diseases are higher than they used to be. What is the culprit? Well, we all know that Satan is behind it, but in a more tangible way, the fact is that our DNA is getting weaker and more corrupted. The air is not as pure as it once was. The nutrients in the earth are not getting into our food as they used to. Our water isn't as clean as it used to be. Radiation is bombarding us from all directions now when there was zero (human-made) just 100 years ago. On top of all these "natural" changes, we often make choices for processed food, sedentary lifestyles, lots of sugar, increase of electromagnetic radiation we are exposed to, less sleep, more medicines, and then wonder why we don't feel great. GMOs may be starting to play a part in this, but the fact is, this trend has been going on for a long time, and nothing of scientific interest has been observed in the general degradation of health since the introduction of GMOs.

It is nice to note that fewer people are smoking cigarettes now, and the air in many parts of the world is cleaner than it used to be smile

Let's get out of the cities, have a little place in nature, try to grow our own food and eat it in the natural state as far as possible, get plenty of exercise etc., and have a sound body and clear mind for when the Time of Trouble comes.

Date: May 5, 2014

yes, we must take care to do as bible & SOP says for the end times but most of all take care to give our bodies the very best of food that has not been 'messed with'

pre-soaking my heirloom seeds right now.... biggrin

Date: May 6, 2014

Here is a very good reason to skirt around using any GMO concoction. And hearty kudos to Vermont!

I like my liver and some things do not. Some may not like this assessment but folks where there is smoke there is fire!

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/05/06/vermont-gmo-labeling-bill.aspx?e_cid=20140506Z1_DNL_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20140506Z1&et_cid=DM44314&et_rid=512200393

Date: May 6, 2014

I second that "kudos to Vermont". It is only right that we should have knowledge about what is in the food we eat. smile If the GMO producers can't be above-board and proud of what they're doing, that's a good sign that they're up to no good.

Date: May 7, 2014

busy all day today planting garden...

and then God followed it all up with a gentle rain PTL

Date: May 8, 2014

I've only planted cucumbers this year. Maybe I should plant more....

Date: May 9, 2014

webmaster wrote:
I've only planted cucumbers this year. Maybe I should plant more....

plant what you can get and according to the space available... it is just fun to watch it all grow... I'm hoping to not only provide for ourselves but for others too...

Date: May 9, 2014

Cucumbers vine out far and bear profusely so if it is only for a man and wife 1 hill will do. One hill is all I put out and have way too many and many to give away. You can put them up in deferent ways and good pickles are a treat.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Date: May 10, 2014

Interesting article found on the net this morning from Australia titled: "Many people with gluten sensitivity have not had proper tests, study says"

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/05/08/many-people-with-gluten-sensitivity-have-not-had-proper-tests-study-says/

A doctor in America had this to say about the above report:

The question is what really triggers this - and because we don't have a clear definition with diagnosis of the disease, there's been tremendous confusion, Fasano told Reuters Health.

He said the symptoms of non-celiac gluten sensitivity aren't limited to digestive issues.

We're talking about skin rash, headaches, foggy minds, joint (pain), anemia and diarrhea - not just irritable bowel syndrome, he said.

Date: May 12, 2014

they call it autoimmune

which means that the body fights itself... God created our bodies to heal and be healed if given the right nutrients... if our bodies were fighting nothing but itself none of us would even be alive right now...

the body was made to fights bacteria, fungus, viruses, foreign proteins, invaders, etc.

I'm not surprised that there are some that have this gluten sensitivity ... in fact I have changed my original document to acknowledge that there are some that have this condition but it is a small percentage in those countries without gmos in their food... but with the gmos, the increase is 4 fold and increasing...

Date: May 19, 2014

Here is 10 different studys of the harmful effects of GMO's.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/08/10-scientific-studies-proving-gmos-can-be-harmful-to-human-health/

There is a lot of money power and big business to keep the truth of this down. We all know the truth has a hard time being heard these days.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Date: Jun 1, 2014

Here is an interesting opinion piece written by someone who went to LA, and saw some of the food fads that are prevalent there. Incidentally, I agree with him totally - what is so "in" today is so "out" tomorrow.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-sax-los-angeles-food-trends-20140601-story.html