The identity of Melkisedec

Date: Nov 3, 2008

The identity of Melkisedec

Date: Nov 4, 2008

Sorry Joe, i don't know either. Don't see how it could be Jesus himself tho, as he is "after the order of Melchisedec." 2SP seems to say that it IS Jesus, but again, this seems very strange that he would be after an order of himself!

Maybe some things are best to know after we get to heaven.

Date: Nov 5, 2008

Hi Joe,
It is not any of those that you have mentioned. As webmaster has said, we may have to wait to find out.

newbie

Date: Nov 27, 2008

It was Christ that spoke through Melchisedec, the priest of the most high God. Melchisedec was not Christ, but he was the voice of God in the world, the representative of the Father.--RH, February 18, 1890.

Date: Nov 28, 2008

HA,
I agree with your post.....

newbie

Date: Nov 29, 2008

I came across the following while reading about the trinity doctrine.

These facts prove that Melchesidec, DURING HIS GENERATION, was appointed by God as the acting, Holy Spirit third person representative of the Godhead in the earth DURING HIS GENERATION which was prior to Christ's Incarnation. After the Son's Incarnation, Ellen White defines the Holy Spirit as the very life and soul of Christ, laid aside as a divine nature regenerating gift for us. It was at His Incarnation that Christ was made a high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Heb. 5:5, 6.

Recall Ellen White's qualifying words:

'She (Ellen White) replied, "I will tell you who Melchisedec was. He was the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Godhead, who took the form of humanity and represented the Lord Jesus Christ TO THAT GENERATION.."

"The Holy Spirit is the breath of spiritual life in the soul. The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It imbues the receiver with the attributes of Christ. Only those who are thus taught of God, those who possess the inward working of the Spirit, and in whose life the Christ-life is manifested, are to stand as representative men, to minister in behalf of the church." Desire of Ages, 805.

The only impartation of the life of Christ is the impartation of His Divine Nature which He had before His Incarnation. After that, He was also of human nature.

"Christ took upon Himself humanity, and laid down His life a sacrifice, that man, by becoming a partaker of the divine nature, might have eternal life." E.G. White, Selected Messages, vol. 3, p. 141.

Ron Beaulieu

http://www.omegaministries.info/melchisedecholyspirit.htm

Date: Jan 6, 2009

Moses

Date: Jan 7, 2009

My view on this is that Melkisedec is the Order of the High Priests and the last High Priest is Jesus forever
The others that was the High Priests before Jesus, was only the type and shadow of the Jesus that was to come into this world in the flesh another example is the lamb the was slain for the sins of Gods people, the lambs that was slain was also only types and shadows of the Lamb of God

Date: Feb 24, 2009

Sister in Christ wrote:

I came across the following while reading about the trinity doctrine.

Recall Ellen White's qualifying words:
'She (Ellen White) replied, "I will tell you who Melchisedec was. He was the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Godhead, who took the form of humanity and represented the Lord Jesus Christ TO THAT GENERATION.."
Ron Beaulieu

I was wondering what the reference for the above statement is. I did a search on the EGW CD and could not find it.

Date: Feb 24, 2009

I'm sorry, I cannot locate Mrs White's quote either. Maybe you could ask the author of the article. I gave the source in my post.

Date: May 12, 2009

One must consider first the context of the first mentioning of the "king of Salem" when attempting to arrive at a conclusion of who this person is...

I will supply the KJV text from Genesis:

14:10   And the vale of Siddim [was full of] slimepits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, and fell there; and they that remained fled to the mountain.
14:11   And they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their victuals, and went their way.
14:12   And they took Lot, Abram's brother's son, who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.
14:13   And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these [were] confederate with Abram.
14:14   And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained [servants], born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued [them] unto Dan.
14:15   And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which [is] on the left hand of Damascus.
14:16   And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.
14:17   And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that [were] with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which [is] the king's dale.
14:18   And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he [was] the priest of the most high God.
14:19   And he blessed him, and said, Blessed [be] Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
14:20   And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
14:21   And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.
14:22   And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,
14:23   That I will not [take] from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that [is] thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:
14:24   Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.

Making a fuller survey of the context, there is grounds for a deeper consideration for the identity of Melchizedek. We must understand that the time that all these nations which went to war one against the other provides the spiritual backdrop for this account and similarly provides a clue as to the identity of Mysterious Melchizedek.

We must first explore the literal Hebrew vocabulary of the term "Melchizedek." It is formed from two words in the Hebrew: Melchi (king of) and Tzadak (righteousness). These two comprise the literal translation "king of righteousness." Then, the passage calls Melchizedek "king of Salem." This is Melchischlm if we work backwards and transliterate and transmutate the verbage into one conglomerate like Melchi and tzadak. The Hebrew is not so fluid as English sometimes in such working, but it gives us some smoothness in interpretation.

So, taking these two titles, "King of righteousness, King (prince) of peace. "Just and righteous are your ways oh God." We all know the oft referred to Trinitarian proof Isaiah 9:6 "and his name shall be called, wonderful, counselor, Almighty God, the everlasting Father, the PRINCE (King) OF PEACE. These titles are clearly a demarcation of the manifestations of Christ, first as the pre-incarnate LORD of the O.T., and the post-ascencion N.T. holy spirit. Remember, Christ said that after he went to the Father, he would send us the "another comforter", which was himself divested of human phyisicality.

Melchizedek is none other than Christ in his Lordship of pre-incarnation, and post- ascencion spirit. He is our high priest in the holy of holies now, making supplication to the Father on our behalf and this fits perfectly with SDA historic theology on the non-trinitarian doctrine of God, for in the passage in Genesis 14 it mentions "the most high God." This is the perfect proof that the wine of Babylon is the confusing of the two persons of God and Christ, in not making a theological or spiritual separation of the two beings, Father and son respectively.

John, in his gospel record, says, In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. What this meant to the Hebrew thinker was that there was no Father and son to demarcate. Hear oh Israel, The Lord our God, he is one Lord. But after Christ, the distinction between Father and son is Critical to the Israel/Hebrew/Christian experience. To confuse their identity is the substance of antichrist. To not know the identity of Melchisedek while understanding John's accounting of Christ's is a fundamental issue in this final outworking of Christ's spirit.

Date: May 12, 2009

Praise the Lord for the "order of Melchizedek". What does the term "Order" mean:

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1.	an authoritative direction or instruction; command; mandate.

2.	a command of a court or judge.

3.	a command or notice issued by a military organization or a military commander to troops, sailors, etc.

4.	the disposition of things following one after another, as in space or time; succession or sequence: The names were listed in alphabetical order.

5.	a condition in which each thing is properly disposed with reference to other things and to its purpose; methodical or harmonious arrangement: You must try to give order to your life.

6.	formal disposition or array: the order of the troops.

7.	proper, satisfactory, or working condition.

8.	state or condition generally: His financial affairs were in good order.

9.	conformity or obedience to law or established authority; absence of disturbance, riot, revolt, unruliness, etc.: A police officer was there to maintain order.

10.	customary mode of procedure; established practice or usage.

11.	the customary or prescribed mode of proceeding in debates or the like, or in the conduct of deliberative or legislative bodies, public meetings, etc.: parliamentary rules of order.

12.	prevailing course or arrangement of things; established system or regime: The old order is changing.

13.	conformity to this.

14.	a direction or commission to make, provide, or furnish something: The salesclerk will take your order.

15.	a quantity of goods or items purchased or sold: The druggist is sending the order right over.

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Grammar.

a.	the arrangement of the elements of a construction in a particular sequence, as the placing of John before the verb and of George after it in John saw George.

b.	the hierarchy of grammatical rules applying to a construction.

c.	the rank of immediate constituents.

17.	any of the nine grades of angels in medieval angelology. Compare angel (def. 1).

18.

Mathematics.

a.	degree, as in algebra.

b.	the number of rows or columns of a square matrix or determinant.

c.	the number of times a function has been differentiated to produce a given derivative: a second order derivative.

d.	the order of the highest derivative appearing in a given differential equation: d²y/dx² + 3y (dy/dx) 6 = 0 is a differential equation of order two.

e.	the number of elements of a given group.

f.	the smallest positive integer such that a given element in a group raised to that integer equals the identity.

g.	the least positive integer n such that permuting a given set n times under a given permutation results in the set in its original form.