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Francis Stewart

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Little Brother, You say that the  honest in heart folks should stay within the "Organized" structure until a "time of coming out". Let's see,,,,ALL Scripture states emphatically,,, we are supposed to "remove ourselves from sin and sinners", and that EZK: 8 and 9 will be literally fullfiled, just before probation closes. The SDA church has "trade marked it's name,,, the only one in all christendom to do so. Thus making it a S T A T E church,,,they signed papers with the feds to be able to do so,,, and a Florida Roman Catholic Lawyer upheld that skulldugery. The SDA church is suing other christians, leadership is urging us to keep Sunday, books of a new order have been written. I could go on and on,,,,,BUT it seems,,,,"though one rose from the dead you would not believe". You are returning tithe "WILLINGLY" knowing all these things and are "feeding" this corrupted structure,,, thus making yourself part of the problem and you WILL be held responsible for the sins commited from the top down if you continue in doing so.  I seriously doubt,, since I have read your "views" on various subject on your wonderful website,, that you will believe and old,(72), evangalist and, sinful old man!!! But, whether you will hear or forebare,,, these are facts, and I haven't touched even a 100th part of the apostasy within the structure you believe will "go thru". The true church will go through" those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus"(in the wilderness)..... where did Jesus and his Apostles go after he pronounced the "desolation sentence" against Jerusalem(the phrofetic church of it's time).To homes, (home churches) around Judah.. You remember don't you,,,but,, the majority also thought they were in the  CO R R E C T movement too. They were all destroyed except for the few ,,twho,,, as they saw the signs of the times fulfilling around them left. Aawww, but what does an old soldier like me know,,, just because I read and believe the KJV of the Scripture and the entire SOP. Oh well,,, I have piped have you heard??? May God make you wise enough to hear the warning and do something about it,,,,,before HE puts on His battle gear,,,then it will be top late,,,"phrophesy can't be broken" Can you even imagine what Sister White would have done had she lived to see the abominations that are ,,this day commited,,, within the organized,, "church". Why do you think they shipped her off to Austrailia....think.........peace    Br. FS:



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Gordon

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Yes Brother Stewart, There appears to be evidence for your assertions, the camp was to be cleansed and always kept from defilement, "that I might dwell among them" Exodus 25:8. Especially for the Day of Atonement. It seems as a people we have lightly esteemed God's latter day prophet to walk in the sparks of our own kindling. Please contact me - xxxxxx Gordon

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Rich

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Have you read Ty Gibson's book "Abandon Ship?" ?  If not, I'd reccommend it.


Sincererly,


Rich



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Dennis Wicklund

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Yes,


My wife and I are struggling with this issue right now.  I do believe it would be an error to support our local church right now and my wife feels the opposite.  I am at a loss as to how to approach her on the subject since she comes from a pastor's family and they have been weened to support the church at all costs.  I don't want to leave my wife, but the controversy rages.  Please pray that my wife's eyes, and my own, will be opened and we will see the correct course.


Dennis



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jabechler

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The Spirit of Prophecy has given counsel that though the church seems as if it will fall it will not. It will go through to the end.  We are to stay the course and uphold the present truth that we may be a light even in our own churches.  I have struggled with this as well and have been encouraged to follow this course.  Look at the jews during Jesus's time.  Was the temple not defiled and polluted by pagan and unrighteous ways, yet Jesus still went to temple. He not once encouraged or preached that the faithful jews stop supporting the chuch, yet at times He did chastise the leaders for their actions and beliefs.  Yes our church is falling away from the truths God has given and is following Babylon but we must hold fast for the shaking is coming and God will prevail.  As to tithe this is difficult, and I still struggle though I have found counsel to give as God has directed, which is to bring the tithe into the storehouse, and if given faithfully then God will bless the giver and He will hold accountable those that misuse them.

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webmaster

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Francis, Yes, the Seventh-day Adventist church is steadily retreating back to Egypt, but is it fallen, part of Babylon?


The Jewish "church" fell when they physically killed the Son of God.


The Protestant churches fell when they rejected the message of Jesus coming in 1844.


When did the SDA church fall?



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Dennis Wicklund

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One might associate the promulgation of the trinity and testing the fellowship through its coercion.  This doctrine was avoided for good reason and now has been exalted as SDA.


If a church who exalts satan instead of Jesus has a doctrine of God, you would think those who are named as the remnant would avoid it like the plague but instead they forced it into law on their own books and teachings.  This is where you err Daniel.


 


D.W.



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newbie

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   I think everyone has to give this much time and prayer before leaving the church.


I'd suggest that you stay with it as long as you possibly can.  Soon, I don't think anyone will have a choice.......



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webmaster

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Praise God the Seventh-day Adventist church still upholds the Biblical doctrine of the Father being God, the Son being God, and the Holy Spirit being God

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love

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coming out of what may i ask? why cause division? instead of seperating from the church body encourage those around you. reinforce that we are living in end times. Yes the adventist church needs to take a hard look as to where we are headed. We are still ethnically and racially divided. These are important issues that are keeeping us from ushering the kingdom of God. The signs of the end are all around. How do we stay faithful as one body and indviduals if our leaders are not helping to prepare this great church for it testing time. The souls in the inner cities are crying out for freedom from sin and iniquity. The SDA church in the cities are inept, and out of touch with reality. There are small congrations on every couple of blocks. Instead of a cohesive congragation of future citizens fo heaven coming together every sabbath to worship the King of Kings. We are small groups of confused and confounded people unsure of where we are headed. Lead by shepards that are to concerned with their earthly homes, and cars. Yes we need to come out, but come out, as one united church of believers. Those who keep the full testimony of Jesus Christ. Remember that we do not wrestle against flesh,and blood. There is spiritual darkness everywhere. Let us use our knowledge of the prophesies and end times to warn those around us, and get ready for that great day. The second coming. After all we are seventh-day adventist. We still uphold the seventh day sabbath ,and we are looking foward to the second return of our Lord,and SAviour Jesus Christ!!!

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newbie

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I tithe because it is the principle of the thing.  All that I have is God's anyway.  He wants me to give back 10% that is His right off the top.  If we do not then it is like stealing from God. 


On a positive note, if you do as He asks, He will make the 90% go much further than the 100% would without His blessing.


We are all in for a rough ride in the churches.  I think soon, there won't be much of a choice.  We will all be scattered and will join up in small remnant groups.  Then, we will be of one accord during the time of economic sanctions and persecution.


 



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Kathleen

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In the parable of the wheat and the tares.  The wheat and tares grow together UNTIL the harvest.  The TARES are separated at this time, NOT the wheat. 

Stay with the church.

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webmaster

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Yes, Kathleen, that is very good.  One other place to show people who advocate leaving the Seventh-day Adventist church is Ezekiel 9.  What are the two conditions to receiving the "seal of God"?



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