Post Info TOPIC: Changing the Bible and Spiritualism
Is there any relevant connection between textual criticism and spiritualism?
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nb

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Zafer these are great quotes and proves that 'stuff' was going on...  there will be consequences for what those men have done as much of the debates that we have today are fostered from these changes....  

Unfortunately there are many today that do not want to see the proof of what has happened...  1 out of 9 that I speak to are interested in knowing more... the same percentage is true for our health message unfortunately... I wonder if there is a connection?

Are you indicating that it was possible these men put in the references to the revised standard version?  I would say that MOST of her references to the bible are from the KJV... about 95%.  But I have found changes in the RSV that did not agree with original SOP so that makes me suspicious.

 



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zafer

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nb wrote:

Zafer these are great quotes and proves that 'stuff' was going on...  there will be consequences for what those men have done as much of the debates that we have today are fostered from these changes....  

Unfortunately there are many today that do not want to see the proof of what has happened...  1 out of 9 that I speak to are interested in knowing more... the same percentage is true for our health message unfortunately... I wonder if there is a connection?

Are you indicating that it was possible these men put in the references to the revised standard version?  I would say that MOST of her references to the bible are from the KJV... about 95%.  But I have found changes in the RSV that did not agree with original SOP so that makes me suspicious.


Now what does Satan propose to do? He proposes that he is capable of changing this Bible. These parties that fell understand all about heaven, and that they can bring in the different sentiments from the Bible, and they are going to have a revision of it. You will see they will make revisions of the Bible, but every one of us needs to stand intelligently on the Word. We cannot afford to be careless, but we must have that simplicity of godliness that is a virtue to us. We must have it. {Ms80-1910}

 

Men act as thou they had been given special liberty to cancel the decisions of God. The higher criticize put themselves in the place of God, and review the Word of God, revising or endorsing it. In this way all nations are induced to drink the wine of the fornication of Babylon. These higher critics have fixed things to suit the popular heresies of these last days. If they cannot subvert and misapply the Word of God, if they cannot bond it to human practices, they break it. {Lt48-1897}

The 95% was Wilkinson's evaluation as well:

In the Index to the writings of Mrs. E G White, I find that in 28 volumes of her works that are listed that she is credited with making 15,117 references to the Bible. Of these more than 95 out of every 100 are from the AV ("Answers to Objections", Section 4, p.9)

But, in the light of the SoP quotes above, the 5% of revised versions (it's RV - RSV came later) shouldn't be there. If that is the case, how did the RV get into the books? Here is the way H.H. Meyers explains it in his book "The Dismantling of Seventh-day Adventism":

It is pertinent to note that at this time Dr Wilkinson was probably unaware of Willie White's statement about other people instigating his mother's use of the revised versions as recorded in "Problems in Translation". This book was not published until the year 1954 (See Chapter Five). Nor does he give any evidence of awareness of certain of the leaders propensities to fiddle with her writings.

According to Valentine, who bases his information on a letter written by A 0 Tait, editor of the "Signs", to W A Spicer (November 25, 1929), it seems that revised versions had been inserted in some of her writings without permission. According to Tait, he had personally heard G B Starr tell of an alleged conversation with Sister White on the matter of her use of the Revised Version. She is recorded as saying that she would like to know who was responsible for the Revised Versions being used in her later writings. And again, she had never given authority for anything of that sort ("The Shaping of Adventism", p.270).

Although this is not first hand evidence, extra credibility is given to this story by virtue of the fact that Tait was all for the revised versions, hence it would not be to his advantage to relate this incident to Starr who looked upon the RV unfavourably. (page 23).

It would be interesting if someone has "The Shaping of Adventism" to check this information.



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While I'm not a "KJV only" believer, I do believe it is one of the most faithful translations, based on the mainly correct Textus Receptus.

Personally, I believe that the Majority Manuscript is the most faithful to the originals.

While I know of the ALT New Testament translated from the Majority Manuscripts, I don't know of a whole Bible based on the Majority Manuscripts.

Does anyone?



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While I'm not a "KJV only" believer, I do believe it is one of the most faithful translations, based on the mainly correct Textus Receptus.

Personally, I believe that the Majority Manuscript is the most faithful to the originals.

While I know of the ALT New Testament translated from the Majority Manuscripts, I don't know of a whole Bible based on the Majority Manuscripts.

Does anyone?


Terms like "Majority Text" and "Textus Receptus" and "Byzantine text type" typically refer to the NT.

The ALT NT is based on the Majority Text, as is the Modern Literal Version (available free for e-Sword).

The ALT OT is based on the LXX (Septuagint).  I couldn't find an exact statement for the MLV OT, but I believe that the choices here are pretty limited -- Masoretic and LXX.

You can find various articles that suggest that the LXX was the common Bible of Christ's day.

 



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zafer

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This is a MUST WATCH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRtKqSS03eg

 



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Thank you very much Vigilantus for news on the Analytical-Literal Translation Old Testament being available now!  I used to be on that translator's email list, and knew that he was dreading the long task of learning Hebrew, and then trying to translate it.  I see he went for the much quicker route of just translating from the Greek translation of the Hebrew.  While I think that is mostly very good, one has to be cautious, as the possibility of error creeps up dramatically when one is translating from a translation of the original.  Of course the Holy Spirit can keep his words pure, so I'm not saying that there are mistakes in it.

Zafer, I'll check out that link this Sabbath.

God bless as we lift up his words in this increasingly faithless age, and may we have the resolve to follow what those words say, and pass them on to others.



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